Comment on No AI* Here - A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter - Waterfox Blog

• Ashtear@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Mind explaining what features and why?

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  • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Earlier on, Mozilla released a plugin called Orbit that summarized Youtube videos with a single click. Then they shut it down. I'd love to see that back. I've found some similar plugins since then but none as elegant and integrated as Orbit was. "Chat with this page" features in general are nice when I come across a big paper or news story where I only want a specific bit of information out of it.

    I use the "translate this" function quite frequently, and I'd like to see that using local models instead of relying on Google Translate. I avoid Chrome because I don't want everything to be Google dominated.

    I suspect AI is still too heavyweight for this application yet, but as the advertising wars continue and advertising starts getting slipped directly into the content of pages I bet an AI-enabled adblocker would be nice.

    A fact-checker AI that goes through the content of a page and adds footnotes and references would be great. I try to fact-check news stories but it's a lot of manual drudgery so I'm sure I miss a lot.

    Sure, much of this could be done with plugins. Orbit was one originally. But if everybody's having to create the AI framework for plugins from the ground up that's going to result in a ton of inconsistency, extra resources wasted, and potential insecurities. I'd like Firefox to provide some kind of unified interface to plugins to let them call AIs as part of whatever they're doing so that I can pick which models I'd like them to use. I run Ollama on my computer, it provides AI inference to anything that wants to use it locally through a unified API. Something like that built into Firefox would be awesome.

    And there'll likely be plenty of other new things I haven't thought of to try out. AI is a very active field, there are new models with new capabilities coming out all the time.

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    • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You sure are relying on the accuracy of the misinformation machine.

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      • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And you sure are relying on just believing whatever you read without any checking whatsoever.

        Here's an example of how AI fact checking can find errors in even extremely well-curated data sources.

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    • selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wow, that carbon footprint. You must be proud.

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    • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve avoided using AI features in Firefox. If I want AI, I explicitly go to AI rather than having it integrated. But you offer some good use cases. And fundamentally I agree that 100% fact checking with a 90% accuracy rate is better than the 0% fact checking most of us do except when we think subverting is wrong and we go digging through for arguments against it.

      That being said, I would worry about model makers building in inherent bias. Like I could never trust Grok as the engine behind a fact checker (though it is surprisingly resilient and often calls out bullshit it is supposed to be peddling).

      Like imagine the person who only wants OANGPT to summarize or fact check every article they read. Can you imagine the level of self-delusion that would come from a MAGA-fied version of everything they read? It would be like living in a propaganda factory. Deliberately.

      Facebook: Bob Smith [woke, probably drinks soy milk and dresses as a woman on weekends]: Had a great day at work today. [he’s probably on welfare so this is bullshit] Big things are coming! [He’s part of a trans pedo ring, guaranteed!]

      Which feels like stupid hyperbole, but I’ll bet every one of us knows at least one person who is that stupid.

      Eh. I use AI all the time, but my level of skepticism…

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• BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m curious, what AI features do you use and why? I can’t even figure out what one is supposed to do.

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  • FaceDeer@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I just responded to a similar question by Ashtear@piefed.social above, listing a bunch of things I do with AI that having a framework embedded right into Firefox would make a lot more convenient, hopefully it provides some answers for this as well.

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