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spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

I’m from New Zealand. We’ve traditionally been a US ally but the situation being what it is at the moment, I think there’s a good chance we’d try to stay neutral.

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
New Zealand will go where its billionaire expat refugee community tells it to go.

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fizzle@quokk.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Sorry bro. Not gonna happen.

Australia and NZ really have to stand together just because of the geography. Australia is critical to NZ’s security. If a superior force conquers Australia, then NZ wouldn’t be able to resist in isolation. Logically then it will always be in NZ’s interest to stand along side Australia.

Similarly, Australia needs a bigger more powerful friend to stare down our neighbors like Indonesia and bullies like China. That friend has been the US for the last 70 odd years, and with AUKUS that alliance will be greatly strengthened.

In any conflict since the dawn of time people have wistfully hoped that their own clan or tribe or city or country could stay neutral, but the reality is that to maintain your neutrality you need to be strong enough to defend yourself without assistance.

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- Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Australia’s biggest trading partner is China. It’s absolutely against their interest to have any kind of conflict with China. But being a puppet state of the US, they’re probably gonna do that anyway.
  
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  - fizzle@quokk.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    China is everyone’s biggest trading partner.
    
    Call us a “puppet state” if you will, but we’re not as far up Trump’s ass as a lot of other allies.
    
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    Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    China is everyone’s biggest trading partner.
    
    It’s not tho.
    
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    Call us a “puppet state” if you will, but we’re not as far up Trump’s ass as a lot of other allies.
    
    The status of puppet state has nothing to do with whether a country’s leader opts to jerk off a clown in public, its about being willing to sacrifice your own economy for our benefit, and extends well beyond Trump.
    
    Also: Supporting us in every war and hostile action against countries whose subjugation doesn’t even benefit your own capitalists.
    
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