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• porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You could’ve just said “yes, I think that’s where the ethical line is”, instead of linking logical fallacies wikipedia like a fourteen year old atheist.

  We haven’t moved anywhere. We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You could’ve just said “yes, I think that’s where the ethical line is”, instead of linking logical fallacies wikipedia like a fourteen year old atheist.

    We haven’t moved anywhere.

    This you?

    If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.

    Sorry that you can’t remember what you said a whole comment ago.

    We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.

    So what you mean is “If you’re working for a major Western company, period, you’re evil.” Since the list of Western companies that don’t do business with Israel is very small.

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This you?

      If you’re working for a western arms manufacturer you can be pretty certain your products will end up in Israel too.

      Yes, that’s me. Maybe the bit you’re missing is that if you work at a company, the company’s products are your products.

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      • NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t know man. Even cell phones seem pretty dangerous in Israeli hands.

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      • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, that’s me. Maybe the bit you’re missing is that if you work at a company, the company’s products are your products.

        I’ll be sure to tell the janitor.

        It’s like you don’t even understand the core moral dilemma of being an engineer working for a military supplier.

        No, that’s not what I mean, and I’d appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.

        So this isn’t you?

        We were at “working for companies profiting from genocide is wrong” and we’ve started right there.

        There is a material difference between providing Israel with military equipment and with some random consumer product that is just distributed everywhere. Sure, I’d argue it’s still wrong to do the latter, but it’s still a huge difference.

        Ah, of course, if you’re enabling the genocide through non-military means, it’s okay. I mean, it’s not like supplying Israel with goods frees up more of Israel’s resources for military production and action.

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