It’s being deiven by the browsers. Shorter certs mean less time for a compromised certificate to be causing trouble.
Comment on Decreasing Certificate Lifetimes to 45 Days
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
assuming “rest of the industry” in this context refers to ssl seller lobby.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
helix@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
most trouble is probably caused in the first few days. Doesn’t matter if it’s 45 or 90 days, it would have to be a few hours to be meaningfully short. Given that automating things like this is annoying sometimes, you’ll be sure people will max out the 45 days…
I’m pretty sure it’s the SSL seller lobby just wanting more money, tbh. Selling snake oil security.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Given that automating things like this is annoying sometimes, you’ll be sure people will max out the 45 days…
I know from professional experience that this is a stupid as fuck idea that leads to outages. One of the many reasons I’m working to automate those annoying ones.
helix@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I’m not a capitalist, I don’t care about outages. I can live with Facebook being down for a few days, or my bank not accepting transfers for a day or so. Then again, I grew up with the internet in the 90s and prioritise good software and tools over availability, I guess?
Obviously at my job I have to do what my employer thinks. But if nobody cared I’d definitely do our Gitlab upgrades once a week once they’re out and not in some weird “maintenance window” mandated by SLAs and stakeholders.
mbirth@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure it’s the SSL seller lobby just wanting more money, tbh. Selling snake oil security.
And selling “certificate automation” tools.
False@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah you can still do a lot of damage in a few hours, but 45 days is a meaningful reduction in exposure time from year+
dan@upvote.au 2 weeks ago
Yes, this requirement comes from the CA/Browser Forum, which is a group consisting of all the major certificate authorities (like DigiCert, Comodo/Sectigo, Let’s Encrypt, GlobalSign, etc) plus all the major browser vendors (Mozilla, Google, and Apple). Changes go through a voting process.
fluckx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t worry they’ll reduce the cost of certificates proportionally to the longevity of the certificate.
Right? Anybody?
<< Cricket noises >>
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lol, never had to buy a cert huh?
You’re still buying a year or more at a time, no matter the lifetime of the cert itself. Even if the cert lifetime was a week, you’re still buying the same product, no matter how many times you rotate it.
fluckx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Personally? No I’ve never bought a cert before. Given there’s free alternatives and it’s a homelab it doesn’t make sense. Otherwise I’ve used them on AWS, where ACM also just provides them for free.
What you’re saying is that certificate providers will still charge you and provide certificates for a year, but just provide you with N certificates to span that year?
E.g. if the duration is 45 days then they will give you 365/45 certificates ?
dan@upvote.au 2 weeks ago
DigiCert have said they’re not changing their prices as a result. It’s still a yearly payment.