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• Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What you say means nothing to me. See?

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  • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yes, I do see. You’re conflating what has no meaning to you with what has no meaning at all. They aren’t the same thing, though.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      So you do understand. In your fantasy world you can believe whatever fantasies you want. They doesn’t mean they have meaning.

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      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You’re welcome to hold whatever abstract position you like, but the claim that context I’ve raised is “meaningless” misses the point. Meaning isn’t inherent in the universe—it’s created by observers—so dismissing context as meaningless is simply incoherent. Context is meaning.

        I’m not here to debate metaphysics. I’m here to discuss the economic implications of current events: (1) China’s push to build a gold-backed, highly liquid, transferable settlement asset, (2) Russia’s claim that the U.S. may pursue similar moves that could undercut the dollar, (3) gold doubling per USD in the last two years and the long historical context that introduces, and (4) the everything bubble we’re in right now. The question is what these signals imply for the future, not whether signals “mean nothing.”

        If you believe they point to a different outcome, offer a substantive alternative. Otherwise, insisting that everything is meaningless adds nothing to the discussion; it only reveals the limitations of your perspective, which I’m uninterested in. That, limited, world view is the safe “fantasy land” here…

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      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        In my fantasy world? Alright friend, you can take whatever high level position you want and forever repeat your incorrect points. As a matter of fact, however, there is no essence to meaning in the universe. Meaning is derived from the observer. So your point about the validation of meaning is fruitless: no such thing as a meaningless piece of context, unless you are so narrow minded in your fantasy land as to believe in such limitations. I would encourage the interested reader, not those of whom are only interested in preserving their shallow ideological pool, to consider for a moment that the world is far more complex than is immediately obvious.

        As for you, on the other hand, I fail to understand why you’ve tethered my curiosity to the dispute of whether meaning is pervasive to all things—or not. Meaning is what you make of it, and you’ve clearly made nothing of it, and I clearly can not help you see beyond such boundaries, so I will (hopefully) end this discussion now. I am not interested in debating my philosophies with you anymore. That’s just not what I came here for.

        My goal was to discuss the meaning of various macroeconomic market activities, alongside the (very real) efforts China is taking to develop their own gold-backed liquid, transferable, monetary-grade asset that can serve like a global banking/settlement medium. As well as, Russias claim that, the US is moving toward a similar move which would deface US currency.

        This debate is about whether or not the completely valid and present signs actually point to anything. It’s not about the validity of signage. It’s not about whether meaning is inherent or not. Nor is about fantasy land ideology. It’s about economics. If you think the signs mean something other than what they suggest, be my guest and introduce a novel idea. Otherwise, like I said before, I don’t care whether you think the signs may or may not mean nothing.

        “Nothing” doesn’t even make sense in this context. It’s akin a statement like “global warming means nothing.” Duh, you make the meaning. If all you can think of is “nothing,” it says more about you than the actual affairs of the world.

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