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• Cybersteel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Go hiking, exercise, play sports with your mates. Take up a physical hobby like blacksmithing, electronics even woodworking. Spend the weekends on small projects, DIY drones, a wooden sculpture, a small knife made from recycled corrugated steel. Join a volunteer group, do charity work, help out in the soup kitchen. Nowadays it’s easier than ever to not consume content.

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  • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not the person you’re answering to, but: You say this as if everybody enjoys manual labor, sports and/or outdoor activities. None of the proposed activities elicits the least amount of interest for me, for example.

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    • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And many of those activities include consumption. If you’re doing more than casual hiking, you probably aren’t using second-hand shoes from the thrift store.

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      • Cybersteel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The point it being is that consumption plays a supportive role in the activity. Consumption is NOT the activity. You buy shoes to do the activity instead of you buy a movie to watch the movie.

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      • pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        More people should try barefoot hiking. I love it, but most people I know, they don’t even try it

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    • Cybersteel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People should go outside atleast. The sun is bright and beautiful, the skies blue, the beaches are warm and the ocean smells kinda salty.

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      • jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Some people are out doors all day for work… They may not want their hobbies to reflect their work

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      • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        100% agreed.

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Open source/selfhost projects 100% keep track of how many people star a repo, what MRs are submitted, and even usage/install data. And many of them are specifically designed to fulfill a role that industry standard tools aren’t (or are too expensive for) and… guess where the data on that comes from?

  The reality is that you cannot escape consumerism in the modern world. You can pretend you are but… you aren’t. What you CAN do is focus on supporting tools and media that you want/approve of and making your own life better as a result.

  And a big chunk of that involves actually thinking through consequences.

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  • hoppolito@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Open source/selfhost projects 100% keep track of how many people star a repo, what MRs are submitted, and even usage/install data.

    I feel it is important to make a distinction here, though:

    GitHub, the for-profit, non-FOSS, Microsoft-owned platform keeps track of the ‘stars of a repo’, not the open-source self-host projects themselves. Somebody hosts their repo forge on Codeberg, sr.ht, their own infrastructure or even GitLab? There’s generally very little to no algorithmic number-crunching involved. Same for MR/PRs.

    Additionally - from my knowledge - very few fully FOSS programs have extensive usage/install telemetry, and even fewer opt-out versions. Tracking which couldn’t be disabled I’ve essentially never heard of in that space, because every time someone does go in that direction the public reaction is usually very strong (see e.g. Audacity).

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is a distinction without difference. It doesn’t matter what mechanism is used to collect those metrics. The fact is they are there

      And, at a glance: Forgejo definitely has stars and watches and fork tracking as well

      Which is all fundamentally the supply and demand aspects of consumerism. It is the idea that people can identify what there is a high demand for and work to provide a supply. Which is not at all a bad thing and extends far beyond capitalism.

      But it goes back to the previous poster’s comments about how they don’t like that netflix analyzes everything they do and greenlights projects based on that. That extends FAR beyond netflix and well into even open source projects.

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  • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The reality is that you cannot escape consumerism in the modern world.

    Didn’t downvote you but, I guess what I was leaning heavily on was ‘striving to be as self sufficient as humanly possible’. Sure, even though I grow my own food, garden crops, beef, chickens, goats, et al, I still have to buy things. I didn’t mean it like I had transcended commercial consuming. But, do I really need a iPhone 17 pro max as much as AT&T says I do? Do I really need the cutting edge computer when the 14 year old one I built serves me just fine for what I do? That kind of stuff that people just seem to be compelled to purchase.

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• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sorry, but revolution is a far simpler way to stop corporate greed than trying to change everyone’s buying habits.

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  • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You first.

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    • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How about we do it together?

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      • irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well, beyond organized legal avenues: national & local elections, writing your representatives, protesting, marching, I see no real recourse against a corrupted and compromised government, and my government is corrupted and compromised top to bottom, side to side. No one gets a pass. Not this administration, and none in the past. So, no matter who sits in the seat of authority, you will always feel the effects of a corrupt and compromised government.

        It is not I you have to convince. It is millions of apathetic citizens, blown around by blustering, deceptive political winds, without compass or direction. Beyond not feeding the machine more than you have to while still scratching out a life on this planet like everyone else is, it is hard to make inroads that stick. This machine turns slowly. You see, there are still a majority of people in my country that are comfortable. Comfortable people do not illicit change…uncomfortable people do, but here is no change without pain. Pain is something that the citizens in my country are unwilling to put up with to a better goal. They do not act with the long term in mind. Their future is tied to once every 4 years, never contemplating that the legislation passed today, will be with us for generations, if not longer.

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