To me the idea of temporality of communities and no instances is interesting. It’s definitely something new
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 2 weeks ago
Last I ever was hearing this pushed around the fedi the big 'sell' was that mods/admins can't delete posts making it a 'freeze peach' platform.
The only people typically drawn to those are the people who tend to get banned for being intolerable on civilized platforms.
INeedMana@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
‘freeze peach’
TIL. Never heard the phrase
rinse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can block and ban people if you’re the community owner, the point is there’s no federated instances that block people arbitrarily. Every community owner is in full charge of their community.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Although true, the existence of mods is an attack vector the criminally corrupt will always exploit, and every anti-authoritarian should not oppose these because they’re currently exploited by the corrupt. Fascists are buying up all media and social media explicitly to silence opposition and control the narrative (the thing they claim everyone else is doing to them, while being the most blatantly criminal of perpetrators).
I can’t remember the specific protocol, but the one I saw which was most interesting relies on you subscribing to individuals, and building trust through that “social graph of trust”. It’s best to view it as someone owns a domain and you’re subscribing to their rss feed, except they’re identity is cryptographically verified, and the people they engage with have more weight in your feed than those that don’t… as opposed to whatever some technofascist algorithm, oligarch-beholden journalist or corrupt mod (who may very well be a paid operative) deems valuable.
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 2 weeks ago
The system formerly known as Freenet has a module known as the web of trust that uses a similar model. It's interesting but runs into a problem of forcing users/hosts to propagate content and messaging they don't wish to be associated with.
There's a reason places like gab or hexbear end up isolated islands, the general population has no desire to be preached to be the lunatic fringes.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What happens when the lunatics own the media and social media? Let them remove all evidence of genocide and corruption? Just accept the insanity and authoritarianism?
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 2 weeks ago
Then you get things like the platform you're on where in my case it resides in my house and lets me be that big scary admin/mod. Having the ability to purge bad content and actors from a central space is needed for anyone but the most thick skinned masochists to use a platform.
Plenty of people just want to go talk/post without wading through a swamp of the crap that one uncle brings up at Thanksgiving on a regular basis.
missingno@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
How do they deal with CSAM and other illegal material? (I'm guessing the answer is that they don't)
november@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
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Cooper8@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
If I’m reading(skimming) the documentation right, it seems like anyone who can pass the challenge can download the full node and see the full record of interactions. IPFS is not a perfect privacy network, so user accounts can in theory be traced back.
So basically as with Fedi instances it is fully on the Node host to set who can get in based on the challenge, and what is hosted there is their liability. Only difference is Plebbit allows any user to spin up a new instance/community node ad-hoc and they aren’t responsible for maintaining infrastructure beyond what is required seed the nodes they host.
Is that right? I’m not sure but hopefully someone better in the know will correct me if not.
rinse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The community owner does. Every community owner is in full charge of their community.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 weeks ago
Just 1 person?
rinse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
they can assign mods as well
pory@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They loophole it by not “hosting” anything other than text. Link to something and someone else is accountable right? Just ignore that data is data and any image or video can be expressed as a sequence of “text” :)