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Comment on Israel’s IDF Bans Android Phones—iPhones Now ‘Mandatory’

But the article is specifically saying they are forcing iphones because they are more locked down and less susceptible to compromise. And yes, we don’t know if they’re lying. However, the commenter just linked an unrelated article about celebrite’s claim about cracking an iphone. That doesn’t mean they are connected, and that doesn’t mean Android isn’t less compromisible. I’ve taken some device forensics classes albeit not as deep into smartphones like the person you’re arguing with, but I do think they have some merit with their argument.

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prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
They’re also saying this is only for official use, so they should have access to the devices via MDM.

This doesn’t ban personal devices being Android.

The person who is arguing with me is just on an anti Apple knee jerk

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- scytale@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  If anything, MDM will be harder to break on a (non-jailbroken) iphone vs android. So it will technically be harder for someone to block any spying. So in that scenario, both sides of the argument you are in come out right. lol
  
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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
My point is that I don’t think apple is more secure. They’re probably similar but given apple wants me to believe they are super secure and private, they probably are telling me that for a self serving reason which needs to be said because it specifically is not true. I see no reason to believe them at all. I definitely disagree with you about not knowing if the Israeli government is lying. Pretty safe to say at this point that if they find something important enough to state, it’s almost always going to be a lie.

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- prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  I don’t think
  
  The point being made counter to you is that your feelings don’t negate security research. You’ve already claimed you have no practical knowledge, no experience, all you’ve done is read some stuff but what you linked to refute me was nearly 7 years old information that was lauded back then in the community.
  
  You don’t like apple, that’s apparent. What actual claims do you have beyond you don’t like apple?
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I meant it when I said you can move on. Some random person claiming to be an expert is laughable in the first place. I’ve seen threads with people claiming to be doctors giving horrifyingly bad medical advice. It’s a bit baffling that you think anyone would assume you’re an infallible expert because Trust Me Bro™
    
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    prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Cool. I’m engaging with this thread. If you don’t want your baseless misinformation countered then don’t spout it in public.
    
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- scytale@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I mentioned this in another comment, but if in this case the phones are going to be officially issued by the military, then they likely have MDM on them. At that point, it doesn’t really matter anymore what OS you use, they will see everything. No backdoors needed. And it might actually be harder to break MDM monitoring on an iphone vs android, so both sides of the argument you’re in come out as correct.
  
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