No that’s not what I mean. People can be born without ovaries, uterus, vagina (but have a vulva). People can also be born without testes (but have a scrotum and penis). They do not possess these organs, they are nowhere in their bodies. That’s what I was talking about in the very beginning.
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powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoApologies if I’ve missed it, I still have a backlog of messages to go through. My best guess at interpreting your question that you mean something like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5α-Reductase_2_deficiency, in which a male has internal testes and is often incorrectly assigned female at birth due to ambiguous external genitalia. Is there another specific DSD you’re thinking of?
Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 day ago
Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 day ago
Let me rephrase that: people without ovaries, uterus, vagina or testes. Nowhere in their bodies. They have a vulva or a penis plus scrotum.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Their bodies are still organized around the production of one or the other of two gamete sizes. For example, the structures around the gonads would probably be used in diagnosis:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramesonephric_duct
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesonephric_duct
Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 day ago
There’s nothing about the production of gametes in there.
powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
My point is that those are some of the secondary structures you’d examine in the case of missing gonads. Nobody is born with a body plan that just has no concept of producing gametes. That’s the point of saying “organized around”.