Comment on Why We’re Pulling Our Recommendation of Wyze Security Cameras

fignewton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah- your own wired cameras wired to your own ON PREMISES NVR. Anything type of wifi cameras handled by a web portal are completely un-securable and it’s not a question of if the company shuts them down, but when.

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  • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It drives me absolutely crazy that there are no cheap NVR cameras in the wyze price-range. If only I could afford a UiFi camera, i’d do it in a heartbeat, but I don’t have several hundred to shell out for the camera and several hundred more for a dream machine.

    If there were $30 cameras somewhere that can only be accessed through LAN or PoE connections, I’d absolutely cream my pants over it.

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    • planish@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There kind of are: they’re the Wyze cameras, just with custom firmware. They stand up a little web server, and you never log them in to Wyze.

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  • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Amcrest has web apps but you can skip that and set them up over local protocols and use PoE.

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    • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve used Surevision a number of times and like their gear too, all remotely accessible from mobile/etc but at least they’re systems THAT YOU OWN and THAT YOU OPERATE. Since it’s impossible to use/test everything I can’t say they’re any better or worse than others. I always recommend against “cloud” cameras and the people who ignore my recommendation always come back saying they regret it, usually 1-2 years later.

      Spend the money once or spend it every two years hrmmmmm

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    • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I will definitely be trying these out

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  • jackie_jormp_jomp@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Great, but what kind? Is there a bundle I can buy easily? People go the cloud route because of simplicity

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    • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Surevision is one example I gave. Yes, you can just “buy” it. People go the cloud route because they’re dumb.

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      • ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lol what an asshole.

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  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not accurate. I have a number of wifi cameras with web administration portals on each device, not on the Internet, and they are secured by my firewall. The firewall does not permit them to access or be accessed by the Internet.

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    • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have you reviewed the firmware, and what country is the firmware from?

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      • RaoulDook@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        my firmware is from Github, yes

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  • SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Any alternatives if we don’t have the capability to go this route?

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    • locuester@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why wouldn’t someone have the capability? Time? Money? Other?

      A synology nas device seems a minimal cost of time and money.

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      • nbafantest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you’re a renter

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    • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you have walls and electricity, you have the capability.

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• olympicyes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m using Unifi. They are OK.

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  • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unifi looks amazing, but those cameras and dream machines are so fuckin expensive

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    • Dimand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Purely anecdotal but in my experience unify is overpriced garbage. Had a dream machine die at 13 months and could only get an, it’s out of warranty, buy a new one response. Looking at the internals it was pretty clear they were never designed with any service in mind.

      They also force you into plenty of cloud bullshit. They lost my password hash for my local device because they fucked up some cloud transfer. If I didn’t have an SSH key I would have been screwed.

      It takes a bunch of time and tech know-how but foss has been a much better solution. Have a openwrt pi4 router, truenas server and switched my Wyze cams to openmiko firmware. Far better than anything offered by these prosumer companies.

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      • limelight79@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I have ubiquiti access points and a router, and a Tp-link Omada router. The Unifi interface is more slick, but the Omada interface is good too. And the Omada stuff costs a lot less.

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