Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies"
WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
One of the biggest pushing forces that have made people move away from Lemmy is tankies, demonstrably. .ml and Lemmygrad are shockingly toxic, regardless of if you agree with their politics(and you’d better, yor you’re insta banned)
It’s so such a meme, there are multiple communities documenting people catching full site bans for saying things like “Russia is kind of uncool, actually”
It doesn’t really go much deeper than that. The admins are authoritarian assholes that have fallen deep into the online leftist rabbit hole, and well adjusted users don’t want to be around them.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Do you evidence that this is really the case? Do you think that it could perhaps be your personal perspective?
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Enough of personal perspective to be banned for mentions of things they don’t like, or comments that can be interpreted in a myriad ways. Mods there consciously want people to fall in line. Fuck them, they are worthless idiots.
Not even talking about the surrealistic feeling of some fat American leftist who can’t read in Russian telling you sitting in walking distance from Gorky Park how you’re all wrong and superficial on bloody USSR. And they don’t get any ideas when you tell them that.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Ok, fair enough, thanks for providing your perspective, but do you think that the proper way to address that is for everyone to defederate an instance that has a lot of good non-political content or for people who are bothered by the mods in political discussions there to block the instance or the problematic communities where the mods exercise a heavy hand?
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
I think talking about federated services is different from talking about federated data. In Lemmy they are the same, which is why it’s not a good architecture. In Usenet they were not the same, but outside of mammoth technology there’s no similar solution.
Think about bittorrent trackers. They do serve the job of helping peers find each other. But nothing is tied to them, mostly, outside of many closed ones.
Lemmy instances also provide storage and relay services, functionally.
All of these can be separate, and user identities can be untied from instances of some service.
Trackers help you find relays and storage nodes serving specific users and groups. User and group identities are cryptographic (hope so, but one can have separate authentication services, why the hell not ; then it may be analogous to Lemmy instances in regards to bans and moderation).
Doing that isn’t easy, though. But I suppose a competent programmer can implement a tracker (simplest by far - announce, clear, request and storage, the tracker just has to check signatures if identity is, say, hash of public key), a storage service (an object storage with authentication, similar to previous, but perhaps paid with additional registration for that identity), a relay (not much more complex than a toy chat server, but perhaps similar to storage service) and a client application (that one is complex, but not too much, because all the logic of finding stuff by trackers and assembling\replaying group\user\post states is on the client) in not too horrible time.
OK, I’ve started writing a prototype for that in an TCL/Tk recently, lost willpower (ASD, BAD, bad sleep, bad food habits) after adding replays and before adding networking, and when thinking about convenience of integration with ready libraries and such, suspect C or C++ from the beginning would be easier. Bitwise operations not being PITA as a bonus.
HubertManne@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
As I have said Im not into communism and have not been banned from the whole instance so far. Honestly I don’t find being banned as all that bad of a thing. I have often compared the federation to going out in meatspace, at least in the way I want to interact with it. Being banned just means that space is not for me and I will go hang someplace else. Honestly I find having posts removed as more insulting. One reason I have the interactions I did with cm0002 is because someone at a .world instance removed a post I did of my daily comic and for me that was just totally unacceptable so I started posting the .ml equivalent community instead.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Fair enough, thanks.