Comment on Microsoft AI CEO pushes back against critics after recent Windows AI backlash — "the fact that people are unimpressed ... is mindblowing to me"

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  ^ This.

  It’s a neat, under-construction tool.

  A. Tool. An ‘agent’ to do things in nice.

  …But I don’t need a chatbot on my fucking toaster.

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  • min@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Even as a tool it lacks predictability / reproducability. If I give instructions to download a paint program, start a new canvas of 1920x1080 and use the gradient tool to go from red to green, you’re going to get the same result every time. If I instead told a class of students to ask an AI to generate a red to green gradient on a 1920x1080 canvas, the results would not be consistent.

    I use AI, but it is a tool with flaws.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Even as a tool it lacks predictability / reproducability

      If you use the same seed on the same model with the same weights you get the same results.

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s not the predictability we want. If I write a calculator that adds the output of rand() to any result, it will also be repeatable with the same seed on the same machine. It will be nin-functional as a calculator though.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I don’t really get the analogy… of course a bunch of students using different tools with different inputs will yield different results? But if they use the same model and input at zero temperature, they will, in fact, get the same results.

      Predictability has never been a strength of ML, of course.

      …That’s not really what it’s for. It’s for finding exotic stars in astronomical data, or interpoliating pixels in an image, for identifying cat videos reasonably well. That’s still a useful tool. And the modern extension of getting a glorified autocomplete to press some buttons automatically is no different if structured and constrained appropriately.

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      The obvious problem, among many I see, is that these Tech Bros are selling agening LLMs as sapient magic lamps, not niche tools for very specific bits of automation. Just look at the language Suleyman is using:

      I grew up playing Snake on a Nokia phone! The fact that people are unimpressed that we can have a fluent conversation with a super smart AI that can generate any image/video is mindblowing to me.

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