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… well that’s the part I’m challenging. I was thinking like this but I’m wondering if that could be improved.

Do you have a specific use case for two containers that you want to talk to each other? There are some Docker containers that will cozy up, but as you point out, there are some that don’t. Maybe it would be worth the time to consult with the dev teams of said containers, and see if they have any suggestions or ways to go about it. It would seem to me that would be your best point to deviate from. Couldn’t hurt. I would create a defined road map of what you are trying to accomplish before hand, and run it by the dev teams. Just give them a little time to respond. They are real people with real lives too.

As I’m thinking about it, I wonder if your solution might be automation? Something like n8n might allow cross container exchanges. Of course, those data points have to be present for you to tap them tho.

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utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Do you have a specific use case for two containers that you want to talk to each other?

Sure, for example once a Jitsi Meet meeting ends (more than 1 person in a room in, everybody gone), save the chat log to CopyParty e.g. WebDAV push to /meetingname_date.txt would be enough to be useful. It’s something we tend to do manually on a regular basis.

road map of what you are trying to accomplish before hand, and run it by the dev teams.

Yes no rush and I can code so I would be able to test before suggesting anything.

As I’m thinking about it, I wonder if your solution might be automation?

I don’t touch AI but I do think conventions, e.g. not “just” an API but SWAGGER, specific filesystem on mountpoints, etc could facilitate this.

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- irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  I don’t touch AI
  
  Automation doesn’t always mean AI. The app I mentioned, n8n, has two versions: with and without. The plain n8n app is very capable of doing a ton of stuff.
  
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  - utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    The plain n8n app is very capable of doing a ton of stuff.
    
    Sorry if I’m a bit slow but what does it actually do? I skimmed through “automations” earlier this morning and I mostly found paid-for GenAI related stuff.
    
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    dfense@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    As an example, what I do with n8n to hook services together:
    
    We use Zello in firefighting to document the incident with short verbal notes or take pictures. Voice gets transcribed, sent to MQTT for dashboards, taken by Telegraf to influx. Pictures and mp3s get downloaded from zello, put into minio, linked back with the metadata and also sent to influx. Finally all is displayed on a Dashboard. Zello, Minio, MQTT, influx all flied together with n8n.
    
    Another one is the appsmith app for equipment maintenance. We need reports and appsmith is bad at that. n8n queries the Source pgsql, formats it to JSON, sends it to an online service to generate a PDF (with a template), downloads the PDF and puts it into Nextcloud.
    
    There is more, but just as an example. Quite easy in n8n, because many integrations are preconfigured (e.g. Nextcloud), but also plain REST API if necessary (zello).
    
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    irmadlad@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You’re not slow…sheesh.
    
    The version I’m using does not include AI, basically because I don’t have the equipment to run AI 100% local, and n8n AI makes you tap public AI outlets. Both versions are available. The community version of n8n is open-source.
    
    A workflow:
    
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    n8n is a workflow automation platform that gives technical teams the flexibility of code with the speed of no-code. With 400+ integrations, ~~native AI capabilities~~, and a fair-code license, n8n lets you build powerful automations while maintaining full control over your data and deployments.
    
    There are over 400 different integrations: n8n.io/integrations Of course, the AI stuff you can skip. And when you get to the point of proficiency, you can build your own templates and workflows.
    
    For instance, here is a workflow designed to automatically convert media: noted.lol/self-running-video-encoder-bash-n8n/
    
    Another example is pulling logs: noted.lol/system-log-dashboard-n8n/
    
    There are literally endless things you can integrate and build with n8n.
    
    n8n.io noted.lol/tag/n8n/
    
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