Comment on Will you be willing to pay for using Twitter?

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Mr_Blott@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Here’s the thing - you don’t need either of them

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  • PupBiru@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    and you don’t need lemmy/kbin either, but yknow we like it

    what’s your point?

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    • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not addicted to Lemmy, I can quit any time I want.

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    • metallic_substance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Weirdly, I think you both have excellent points. And yet I’m here. At this point I’m almost not sure why

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      • Mr_Blott@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You should tweet that. I mean X it. I mean just keep it to yersel eh

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  • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Whilst I mostly agree with you, what I use Twitter for, and now Mastodon, is to get updates on projects and events. I follow projects like Asahi Linux (where devs post updates from their personal accounts), or various service providers or trending hashtags to get real-time updates on events, such as say an M365 outage, a zero day vulnerability, or a natural disaster (eg: earthquakes). Sure, there are other sites as well that report on events, but these sites mostly get their updates from Twitter (and not having an account on it would exclude you from participating). Thanks to Twitter, I’ve been able to interact directly with developers, netsec folks, organisations and just randoms from across the world - all of which, has been convenient to do so via a single platform. It’s kinda hard to replicate that sort of interaction across other platforms.

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    • war@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whatever lame-ass excuse makes you sleep at night, junkie.

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  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean… You don’t need Lemmy either yet here you are.

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• mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  let's not pretend mastodon is a viable alternative at this time. sure, it's not an ad-algo-hellscape yet (meta will change that tho) but you're at the mercy of whatever powertripping admin you have to deal on the instance you're on. unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you're not going to have interesting conversations. it's very slow, has barebone features and there is a lack of actually interesting oc posting people on the masto side of the fediverse.

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  • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I feel like these comments are from folks who haven't really used it. The traffic on your specific instance isn't really the point most of the time. And the fact that you can find another instance easily if the guy in charge of your instance is an asshole is a pretty huge feature. Who runs the other instance of Twitter you can move to?

    You can migrate your account and followers/following lists until you find an instance where the admin isn't a "power tripping asshole" - and I'm not convinced that's a widespread problem in any case.

    The Mastodon interface is kinda barebones though still not as bad as I think you are describing, but I migrated (gasp) my entire account to firefish.social, which federates with Mastodon, with a couple of clicks, and the interface and features there are really great. (And there are also multiple firefish instances to choose from in case the admin becomes an power tripping asshole)

    But most importantly:

    unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you're not going to have interesting conversations

    Why wouldn't you be following people from the broader fediverse? The federated feed on firefish (and on most instances I'd think) scrolls by so fast I have to pause it to read anything. There's plenty being posted. Certainly no less comparatively than I see on kbin/lemmy, and it gets better continuously.

    I'm all for using what you like and avoiding what you don't, but this is like an infomercial-level criticism of Mastodon, like when they spend 45 secs showing you how hard it is to scramble eggs and cook them without their forty dollar gadget.

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    • mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i've been on two instances since last fall: one mastodon, one pleroma.

      on the mastodon one i found out by accident, that i was "shadowbanned" from it's own public timeline. inquiring why this happend, the mods didn't told me. when i asked then that i would like to know what i did "wrong" and if they could lift this, they said "no". i deleted my account after that.

      the pleroma one was even worse because literally on day one i was zerged by some american internet rightwingers because i posted something they didn't agree with. i deleted my account after that.

      what do you suggest, how many times should i move/delete my account until i found an instance that at least gives me the twitter treatment instead of just doing random policy?

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      • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean, I already recommended firefish.social, but you are under no obligation to try it. My point is that your experience is very much not typical I think.

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      • rglullis@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The microblogging side of the Fediverse definitely has a cultural problem: people keep thinking that the instance that they join should be an indication of what “tribe” you belong to, and this can be worse that high-school politics. The only way that you can truly avoid issues with power-tripping admins is by running your own instance, but even that doesn’t help much when there are some instances around (cough mastodon art cough) that seem to love the drama and play the “everything I don’t like is literally hitler” game.

        Anyway, if you are still looking for an alternative: I have a small, professionally managed Mastodon instance that has the simple goal of offering a reliable service at an affordable price.

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      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        on the mastodon one i found out by accident, that i was “shadowbanned” from it’s own public timeline.

        I’m not sure that’s actually possible for a mod to do on Mastodon. Did you make your posts “unlisted” by default by accident?

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  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It works “well enough”.

    unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you’re not going to have interesting conversations.

    I don’t get this. I’ve had many interesting conversations with people on Mastodon. And there are a number of interesting people I follow.

    there is a lack of actually interesting oc posting people on the masto side of the fediverse.

    This is a problem solved by more people joining… And from my POV Mastodon is far more stable and mature than Lemmy is. I’ve had better conversations there without being swarmed by tankies and ultra-partisans as well.

    Perhaps you’ve chosen bad people to follow?

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• BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Use Firefish too! It’s better designed than Mastodon and SO cute.

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