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pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

And Microsoft might be right this time. My mid size organization for example is locked in to microsoft, we use the Office suite, AD, Teams, their ERP system, Windows servers, Windows desktops, outlook, etc.

I would love to go the Foss route but let’s be real, the costs that would save would quickly be overshadowed with learning to set it all up.

Let me know if I’m wrong here, I really am open to moving over but it’s a massive undertaking.

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Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Steps to slowly escape are this:

Install Debian + samba 4 on a server, configure to run it as an active directory server

Join that server to the work domain as a backup domain controller

Install onlyoffice on all computers and set it to use onedrive

Meanwhile install nextcloud and get used to that with a small part, with onlyoffice.

Migrate the users that don’t use too much Microsoft 365 to nextcloud instead of onedrive, onlyoffice+nextcloud instead of office, nextcloud talk instead of teams

Start to decommission one windows domain controller and let the Debian domain controller do its work.

The escape door is open, start to escape

In the short term, even if it’s free, having someone do this work will definitely cost more than paying the license for windows server + all the user CALs + the office 365 subscriptions but I think ROI in 5-7 years
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- possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  None of that is really feasible though
  
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  - Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Average office worker won’t even notice the difference between using a spreadsheet in onlyoffice shared with colleagues in nextcloud vs using a Microsoft® Excel document over onedrive.
    
    Nextcloud talk with the php backend sucks but compared to Microsoft teams isn’t that awful anymore
    
    And using smb4 as active directory server is completely undistinguishable from a windows AD server. It uses the exact same Windows-based tools and GUI for adding new users, groups and policies. It’s just slightly more complex to install. A new windows server license costs $1200 + $55 for each employee in the company. Put that money towards a Linux consultant paid $200/hour to install and configure it and it’s the same. 2/3 hours to setup and 1 hour per year for maintenance. And anyway the consultant that is paid to install and configure the windows based active directory server isn’t much cheaper, just easier to find.
    
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    possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Have you worked in a sysadmin position? Nextcloud and Samba aren’t really stable enough to use In a business as they both are a massive pain. You couldn’t pay me any amount of money to support them.
    
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