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• deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s not hacking, that’s development. They’re not bypassing locked bootloaders. The hardware is open.

  Try running anything on an Xbox Series S/X or PS5.

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  • notfromhere@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s like saying an unlocked Pixel phone is a PC because you could technically develop an OS for it. Unlocked bootloader doesn’t an open system make.

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    • deranger@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, that could very well be a PC. You could take the guts out, put it in a generic box, attach a monitor and peripherals, and have a Linux PC that drastically outperforms PCs of a couple decades ago, with similar functionality. Those were PCs then, why would the definition change?

      Regarding the exploit definition, yeah, that’s the good one IMO. The other one is more akin to “life hacks” or “food hacks” and I think it’s silly. Using a butter knife as a screwdriver isn’t a “tool hack.” Putting Doom on a toothbrush isn’t hacking, provided no exploits were necessary. Putting Linux on a MacBook isn’t hacking just because it lacks documentation and the Asahi devs have to figure some things out before it works.

      I would be curious to hear your definition of hacking, though. To me it seems if you’re calling Linux on Mac hacking, then there’s a million other things that are hacking and the word loses its meaning.

      If Apple locks the bootloader then I’ll completely agree with you. And while I do agree it appears they’re heading in that direction and it sucks, a MacBook is far more “computer” than a console, even if poorly documented and thus difficult to develop for.

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      • notfromhere@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hacking at the kernel to make it work on a new device is a valid definition of hacking IMO.

        Hacking [something together] - building something quickly to make it work not necessarily a robust inplementation.

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