Comment on CHAT CONTROL 2.0 THROUGH THE BACK DOOR – Breyer warns: "The EU is playing us for fools – now they’re scanning our texts and banning teens!"

melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That won’t work in the sense on page 35, Article 2 definition (f) it says that this applies to

      (ii)an interpersonal communications service;
      (iv) an internet access service;
  

  as well, meaning your phone provider and ISP. It’s highly the approach to enforce this would couple e-SIM and some app on your phone or computer that things have to be routed through. Or you just don’t get cell/internet service.

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  • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This has not yet happened even in the most authoritarian jurisdictions, with the possible exception of North Korea. The Internet is built with open protocols so any restrictions will have to be implemented on the network edge. There is no vendor locking for on-prem routers in multiple countries. As long as all purpose computers are not illegal you can still use strong encryption and anonymizing services on your end devices on your own network. So any mandatory surveillance and tracking will have no power there.

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    • it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would be happy to be wrong.

      The entire “proposal” is absolutely crazy from start to finish anyway. It’s just that these companies will have to do ______ or be labeled or held liable for aiding in the distribution of CP.

      Who knows what they will come up with.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Such a tech restriction would instantly kill hotspot capability of a phone. Not that I think they corrupt traitors in the EU wouldn’t want to try it anyways.

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• Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You’re lucky if you don’t depend on apps such as banking apps or Ryanair digital boarding passes

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  • docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    We’re going to need a sanctioned phone just for banking and another one for everything else. Plus maybe a third one to take to demonstrations etc. Just great :(

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    • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do not take a mobile device on demonstrations if you can’t verify it respects airplane mode. E.g. GOS does, but I’m not aware of any other such.

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That is a problem for future Melroy.

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  • eleitl@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I use hardware TAN generators but my bank’s app works on LineageOS and GrapheneOS. If my travel service doesn’t accept printed out documents then it is not a travel service I will use.

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  • ftbd@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s one of the major restrictions for casual use, yes. But if these measures are actually implemented, it might be worth it to have a second phone (or some other device) just for online banking

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• Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think the strategy used the world-over, is to surveil everyone and build network graphs. You may work extremely hard to secure your device and communications, but the algorithms will build up a dossier on you based on all of the people you associate with who are less capable or motivated. Machine learning is insanely good at filling in missing data in an information rich dataset.

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