Yeah, I don’t really want to live in “your” world and I definitely want no part in governing it. But I wish you the best in your endeavour.
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willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week agoYour thinking sucks.
I want a comrade who will help me govern my world.
I don’t want a dead weight that requires a lot of persuation before they can even let out a fart.
I am thinking ahead. I can persuade you now, and tomorrow I will have to persuade you again. Anytime I want cooperation I will need to persuade you. And you are just one person. I am going nowhere fast with that approach. The default for you becomes one of passivity. And then I have to start persuading you after thing have gotten already very bad.
That will not do.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Typhoon@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
That’s the kind of thinking that lead to the world we live in now, where anyone is free to collect and sell any data they can scrape.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
No, that’s the kind of thinking that orecents me from taking 13-year-old stoners on Lemmy seriously when they talk about helping them to rule “their” world like they’re going to crown themselves Pharaoh of the Earth.
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
That’s fair. Then to me you are neutral at best, assuming you are largely apolitical.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Assume whatever you want.
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
If I were assuming I would not need to converse first.
planish@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
That sounds suspiciously like democracy, the thing we would quite like to achieve.
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
In a democracy there will be persusion in the form of arguments.
But in a democracy the demos is not actively or low-key campaigning to give away their power, to put the interests of economic royalists ahead of their own.
In other words, the quality of energy is not defensive when someone tells you to be more proactive, faster, more zealous in defending your own interests.
The first functioning democratic governance was practiced by the pirates. Why? Each pirate could kill half the crew at night. And they all knew this fact about each other. So they did the rational thing: nobody’s voice can be ignored, or there are dire concequences.
The only way democracy works is if most people will want to govern, make policy, make and change the rules of the game, own the game, and not merely passively playing the ruleset they inherited from their ancestors.
Once you encounter someone who lacks that hunger to be an administrator and not merely a passive and reactionary player, more arguments is the wrong way to go. These passive people cooperatively bind to economic royalists and their entire view of life is not 1, 5, or 10000 arguments away. They together with the economic royalists are an obstacle, not some harmless loyal opposition, but basically a team of rapists and their enablers.
planish@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I don’t think it is right to trivialize rape like that.