Comment on ICE's 'Frightening' Facial Recognition App is Scanning US Citizens Without Their Consent

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

  Have you seen an instance where a citizen or legal immigrant calmly asked for name and badge number and was refused?

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  • czech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes I have. There are only videos of people asking for badge numbers without getting a response. There are none where a badge number is given.

    My point was that we need to see their faces because they will not identify themselves. Thats a big problem if we ever pull ourselves out of this; they will attempt to rejoin society like nothing happdened after illegally brutalizing american citizens. We need to know who the traitors are.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There are only videos of people asking for badge numbers without getting a response.

      Are these suspects or protestors? Because the videos I’ve seen are protestors. Police must reveal their identity to suspects due to the fourth amendment, but not to the general public.

      My point is suspects have a right to know who their accusers are. Whether they share that with others (and they should) is up to them. Having the public know their identities just opens them up to vigilante justice, having suspect know their identities keeps them accountable to the rule of law.

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      • czech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Both. But if you’re “arresting” a protester haven’t they become a defacto suspect? Or are they arresting protesters for other reasons?

        All other law enforcment in america is maskless. Why would ICE need special protections from vigilate justice?

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