Comment on “Lies and fantasies:” Bowen puts $387 billion price tag on Dutton’s nuclear plans
WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I couldn’t help stop laughing the moment I heard the opposition (was it Dutton specifically?) mention small modular’s in a speech a few months back. They are more expensive forms of (already expensive) nuclear reactors. I have a feeling that they didn’t really do a proper analysis or look into what they were planning, they only knew that they wanted to spruik nuclear and this whole SMR thing sounds tasty so lets go with that.
Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They don’t want to spruik nuclear, they don’t give a fuck about nuclear, they just want to stole conflict in the clean energy discussion while they burn coal for as long as possible. It’s the only thing Dutton knows how to do.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 year ago
You can’t build grid on renewables only. So some form of base generation is required. Nuclear is only thing we have for now to cover it. But god, why SMR? They are too new and untested.
anathema_device@bne.social 1 year ago
@TheHolm @australia “You can’t build grid on renewables only”
Why the fuck not?
TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Because it we are lacking core technology to make it works - Energy storage. A do not tell me about Tesla batteries, and Show Hydro 2, they are both not scalable. Batteries for time, hydro forever. And there is no time to wait. we need to phase out coal ASAP, and nuclear only tested green technology we have in the moment which can provide base generation in AU. Hydro is other one, but we are used it all already. In 50 years it may be better solution, form high altitude wind to orbital solar and thermonuclear. For now there is no other option, we burn coal or we build some nuclear with renewables on top.
steakmeout@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Yes you fucking can in Australia - we have extreme winds, extreme heat, we’re tidally locked and we have ample room for solar, wind and tidal power generation. What we lack is spine enough to push back against conservative talking points.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 year ago
As we lack technology to make it happen. Read my comment bellow pls.
Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Solar Hydro has pretty much solved the baseload problem.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 year ago
All these things are still prototypes. Scaling them up will take who know how long and no one knows what problems will arise. Recent problem with Simens wind turbines shows that even wind is still not fully mature. Plus who is going to build all these thousands of hydro-solar stations? Do we have industry to do it? Nuclear is there ready to build, not required any new KNOW-HOW or creates some enormous industry ( like Lithium batteries).