Comment on Mathematics disproves Matrix theory, says reality isn’t simulation

• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What I’m saying is that for example, dreams are not real, and yet they can and often are indistinguishable from reality, many even have dreams where they are aware they are dreaming and can control them the same way we can control what we do while awake.

  I think to adopt that argument you have to be operating on some preconceived assumptions.

  Dreams are “real”, in the sense that they are propagated by measurable physical phenomena. Just because some people can experience an amount of choice in their dreams, does not mean they are interacting with “reality”.

  This is only possible because we have bodily systems for producing experiences

  Again… Experiences needs to be defined. There are a lot of theories about how we engage with the world around us in both a physical and metaphysical way.

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  • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dreaming is reality unconstrained by sensory input

    Reality is dreaming constrained by sensory input

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dreaming is perception unconstrained by sensory input

      That’s not really true… Dreaming is a cognitive function that is still limited by how we engage with our surroundings normally. Congeniality Blind people do not see in their dreams, and deaf people do not hear.

      Reality is dreaming constrained by sensory input

      Imo that is a bit of a narcissistic way to view reality. Reality is shared, and not defined by an individual person’s sensory input. There are natural laws that persist even if there is no way for a person to perceive them.

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      • confuser@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        People blind at birth dream of perceiving hearing unconstrained by sensory input so yes it is true still even for people blind from birth. I have a friend who is this case actually.

        There is nothing narcissistic about it because it only proves that we are individuals with individual experiences, we still all operate from the substrate that is outside of out body with its brain and sensory organs.

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