Comment on Google pulls the plug on first and second gen Nest Thermostats

• AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s mostly network segregation and decluttering. Those things shouldn’t be on a adata network where you then have to filter them all off from the rest. A dedicated network that’s designed for this kind of thing makess much more sense. Also Watts add up. One of them maybe just 5 (which seems a bit high), but when you’ve got sensors, lights, switches, etc., it can end up being significant.

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  • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    If you’re talking about a commercial building or something, sure. I get the concept I suppose it just seems like it’s probably optimizing 2025 hardware against 2005 constraints when we’re talking about a single household.

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If you just have that one gadget, I agree it makes little to no difference.

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• pishadoot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s more about having fewer devices on Wi-Fi network IMO.

  Until Wi-Fi 5, only one device could talk on Wi-Fi at a time, and even with 5+ the number of devices is limited by a ton of factors, so the more devices you have chattering the slower everything gets as devices wait their turn to speak, have collisions, time out, try to speak again, etc.

  You can mitigate this through several different methods, but removing randomly transmitting devices will always be a benefit.

  Zwave, zigby, all of those all operate in a different band so it’s better for your internet connection to wireless devices if you can offload stuff into those ranges.

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  • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Fair enough, just seems like sticking with the more standard tech has its own advantages but if you’ve got a lot of devices in the net I could see the value

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    • pishadoot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Oh it’s definitely easier if it’s on Wi-Fi. I mean, ask 20 people on the street if they even know what zigby is and you’re gonna get 20 blank stares.

      But for people who are into this type of thing either to regain control of their networks, to optimize their networks, or both - it’s objectively the better choice in most ways other than easy mode adoption.

      Personally I have a TON of small Wi-Fi devices that are constantly transmitting (cheap interior cameras for keeping an eye on pets all over the house - all my security cameras are hard wired) so I try to limit new Wi-Fi traffic onto the net if I can help it.

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