Comment on opencloud - I migrated from nextcloud. Screenshots and docker-compose-compose.yml included
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
What’s wrong with Nextcloud? It’s not as snappy as google drive but it’s fine for small organisation IMO. I personally really enjoy it.
bytepursuits@programming.dev 1 day ago
Nextcloud stopped being a fast, reliable file sync tool a long time ago.
It’s become a bloated “groupware suite” full of Talk, Office, AI, and half-finished apps…
while the core sync still chokes on large folders and locks files like it’s 2015.
The Core Problem PHP-FPM and mod_php are ancient architectures - every request spins up, runs, and dies. No persistent memory, no connection reuse, and no async I/O. Result: slow sync, race conditions, and constant “file locked” errors. Tons of open GitHub issues about sync bugs, upgrades, and no action from nextcloud
What they shoud do: Hyperf + Swoole
Swoole turns PHP into a high-performance async server - persistent memory, connection pooling, non-blocking I/O.
Hyperf+swoole can rival GOlang. Hyperf builds on it: native WebSockets, coroutine HTTP, and microservice-ready architecture. You get live sync, push notifications, and massive concurrency with a fraction of the resource cost. Add TUS (resumable uploads) and you finally have reliable file transfer on bad connections.
I don’t want “Teams clone” bloat. We want reliable sync that just works. I’d rather self-host a lean, fast file system than manage ten half-integrated apps. Hyperf + Swoole is how you bring Dropbox-level sync to self-hosting without the pain.
Nextcloud could fix its image by: Refocusing on sync reliability and performance. Moving core services to a persistent, async engine (Swoole/hyperf, etc). Making “Nextcloud Core” modular - separate entirely from the groupware/ai/talk - I dont fucking need it. Until then, those who care about speed, concurrency, and modern PHP should look beyond the old PHP-FPM world.
scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
This is a good summary. At this point I am too deeply invested in to NextCloud to switch to a different thing, as I’ve switched my whole family off OneDrive now and I just cba to go through that again. I can handle it being dogshit and I’ve got used to it’s bugs - a form of stockholm syndrome. I suspect a lot of people are similar to me - we use NextCloud because it’s the biggest name and has been around forever, not because it’s what we want.
Anyway, performance is clearly a problem, and has been since I started on OwnCloud 10 years ago. I wish the devs would do something to improve it but again, having used it for 10 years, I know that they won’t. When it finally blows up I’ll move to something else I guess.