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Comment on OpenAI moves to allow “mature apps” on its platforms

I’m disagree with a lot of points, positive and negative.

…Honestly, the average person does not care about privacy, security, nor being offline. They have shown they will gladly trade all that away for cheap convenience, repeatedly.

Nor do they care about power usage or cooling. They generally do not understand thermodynamics, and your 395 (much less an iPhone GPU) would be a rounding error in their bill.

I’m not trying to disparage folks here, but that’s how they are. We’re talking ‘average people.’

As for proprietary models, even if we don’t get a single new open source release, not one, the models we have right now (with a little finetuning/continue training) are good enough for tons of porn.

On hardware, I’m talking smartphones. And only smartphones. They’re powerful enough already, they just need a lot of software work and a bit more RAM, but everyone already has one.

Regulatory restrictions at either end are quite interesting, and I’m honestly not sure how it will pan out. Though I’m skeptical of any ‘superintelligence’ danger from commodity hardware, as the current software architectures are just not leading to that.

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tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
So, I’m just talking about whether-or-not the end game is going to be local or remote generation. I’m not saying that one can’t generate pornography locally, but asking whether people will do that, whether the norm will be to run generative AI software locally (the “personal computer” model that came to the fore in the mid-late 1970s and on or so) or remotely (the “mainframe” model, which mostly preceded it).

Yes, one can generate pornography locally…but what if the choice is between a low-resolution, static SDXL (well, or derived model) image or a service that leverages compute to get better images or something like real-time voice synth, recognition, dialogue, and video? I mean, people can get static pornography now in essentially unbounded quantities on the Internet; It is in immense quantity; if someone spent their entire lives going through it, they’d never, ever see even a tiny fraction of it. Much of it is of considerably greater fidelity than any material that would have been available in, say, the 1980s; certainly true for video. Yet…even in this environment of great abundance, there are people subscribing to commercial (traditional) pornography services, and getting hardware and services to leverage generative AI, even though there are barriers in time, money, and technical expertise to do so.

And I’d go even further, outside of erotica, and say that people do this for all manner of things. I was really impressed with Wolfenstein 3D when it came out. Yet…people today purchase far more powerful hardware to run 3D video games. You can go and get a computer that’s being thrown out that can probably run dozens of simultaneous instances of *Wolfenstein 3D" concurrently…but virtually nobody does so, because there’s demand for the new entertainment material that the new software and hardware permits for.

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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Fair.
  
  I guess it depends what becomes the ‘norm.’ Thing about any GenAI ‘service’ is it’s not free. It’s not even ‘cheap’ like streaming video or images en masse is; every generation is tailored and costs cloud money.
  
  And Apple seems rather hell bent on pushing beefy hardware to basically half of all people in the western world. A few generations of iPhone and software can absolutely get that confluence if simulation like you describe, and there are fundamental issues going beyond that: game-like, local pornagraphy ‘virtual reality’ is much better done (at least partially) on device, because of how hard game streaming is.
  
  …But you still make good points. It could go either way.
  
  I mean, people can get static pornography now in essentially unbounded quantities on the Internet; It is in immense quantity; if someone spent their entire lives going through it, they’d never, ever see even a tiny fraction of it.
  
  On this specifically, TONS of people have no idea how to use a browser. Dare I say most, these days? Their whole world is what’s availible through apps, hence this ‘sea’ of static pornography might be more limited than you’d think.
  
  There’s also, apparently, a huge demand for basic interactivity, hence the unreasonable popularity of OnlyFans.
  
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