nah, just keep pumping into those corpos. one day they’ll stop abusing consumers, they “promise”.
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realitista@lemmus.org 2 days agoBuy something based on open standards and you won’t need to worry about this.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Scrollone@feddit.it 1 day ago
Problem is, 99% of people don’t even know what open standards are.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s me. I have no fucking idea and the time to research it makes me quit before I start.
Couple that with the fact that asking questions from ignorance will most likely get two responses, both of which suck.
First, I’d probably get an info dump of terminology I don’t recognize and have to research each one before understanding what’s being said. That would take me back to my original stance of quitting before I started.
Secondly, I’d encounter loads of derisive assholes that scoff at my lack of knowledge.
Someone should publish a guide or something similar.
realitista@lemmus.org 1 day ago
I can sum it up for you. You won’t go wrong with anything Zwave. Zigbee is also pretty good and cheaper. Matter is an up and coming standard so less fully formed but also good. Stick to those 3 and you should be good. There are some other niche ones like esp32 or KNX but generally those are more advanced or for specific use cases.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Man, thanks for trying to help. I really mean it, no snark.
This is me right now: “Hey Siri, what are Zigbee, Zwave, Matter, esp32 and KNX?”
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Unfortunately, with smart home stuff, you need to choose between ease of use and control. Google provides ease of use because their stuff all works together out of the box, but there’s also a whole ecosystem of stuff that works together that takes a bit more effort to connect.
The barrier to actually controlling your smart home isn’t super high, but there are some things you need to learn about to pick devices. Another user mentioned a few things to research, but I’ll point you another direction that’s a bit like throwing you in the deep end.
HomeAssistant is a self-hostable hub for various smart things. Basically, you’ll install it on your computer and figure out which of your current devices work with it. Your setup will only be available at home until you get a way to access it from outside your home, but don’t worry about that to start, there are services you can use to simplify that later (or ask on !selfhosted@lemmy.world). Once it’s setup, you need to decide what things you can’t connect that you’d like to replace and look at your options (most likely you’ll pick ZigBee or ZWave devices, maybe Matter). HomeAssistant’s website has a bunch of documentation about various devices, like which will work, so you can use that to help shop too.
If you can manage that, you’ll get a lot more control over your smart home and eliminate whatever monthly fee you pay. Some devices won’t be available, but the ones you pick will continue to work as long as the hardware isn’t broken.
Scrollone@feddit.it 17 hours ago
I’d like to add that accessing your things from outside the home is relatively simple if you have a static IP and you setup a VPN to your home with Wireguard.
Some advanced routers even have native support for Wireguard, like the Freebox in France or the Iliadbox in Italy.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
This helps. Thank you.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Simply, check for cloud dependency; can you set it up without the thing’s app, without internet? Does it keep working when the internet is down?
Thread and matter can have “unique” implementations but it’s better than proprietary.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Also, if it works on multiple, competing platforms, it’s likely following an open standard. Can you use a mix of devices from competing companies on a third, competing platform? If so, you’ll probably be fine.