Comment on US Government Urges Total Ban of Our Most Popular Wi-Fi Router

• themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  At least the foreign country wont use the data to arrest and make laws against you.

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  • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It could put you at risk if you ever travel to that country, for work or pleasure, though.

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    • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isnt it mostly the US who does thay?

      But the a buglar everbody steals.

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      • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Well, yeah, we’ve (the US) has been doing that the past few years, but we’re certainly not the only ones. In fact, the company my wife just started at sends people to China regularly, and they give everyone they send burner phones.

        Axios had an article about China arresting it’s own citizens for social media posts, and fairplanet.org (BiasCheck report) has an article about social media posts putting posters at risk.

        Here are a number of articles about foereigner detention in China; I tried to filter out ones which had a less than “mostly factual” rating on BiasCheck.

        • Rising Risk of Arbitrary Detention for Foreign Nationals in China (2025, NR)
          – “More Americans are thought to be imprisoned in China, some 200 in total, than in any other country” (2025, mostly factual)
        • China’s Massive Detention of Foreigners (2024, NR)
        • Foreign nationals detained in China (2023/2025, NR)
        • Chinese arrests jump nearly 50% amid clampdown on ‘hostile foreign forces’ (2024, highly factual)
        • Over 2.4 million people ‘arrested or prosecuted’ in China last year for national security offences (2024, highly factual)

        It’s important to note the CSL classifies criticizing the Chinese government as being a criminal national security offense; for example, the article from FirstPost.com mentions mailings of

        journalists, human rights lawyers and activists particularly based on online content they have shared.

        Trump is adopting fascist playbooks from current and historic regimes; “fascism” as defined:

        A political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism) 

        not as the lazy synonym for “Nazi” which is commonly used. China absolutely is a fascism, as is Russia, and the US is rapidly approaching it.

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Doubt I will visit china tbh

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, the worst case is they use it to influence elections. US surveillance will do that and look for “illegal” activity —for some fucked up definition of illegal.

  For example, in my state you need to give your ID to sites to look at porn. Fuck that. I don’t trust those sites with that kind of data, even if I trusted that they were trying to keep it private (which I don’t). I use a VPN to avoid this, but I’m not really sure on the legal status of that.

  Also, my political views don’t really align with the current administration (or any for that matter, but especially the current one). They’ve already made indications they’d come after people who hold opinions like mine. I trust China won’t send people after me, but I’m not sure about the US.

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• willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For me it will depend on what that foriegn country is, how it is governed, its cultural norms, things like that.

  I don’t have more trust in Chinese government than I do American.

  How about some real privacy rights instead of making me choose my surveillers.

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• BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s kinda like my google ethos, Google are already spying on me, I might as well use their phone and then Samsung aren’t spying on me as well.

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