Comment on US | Pentagon Admits It Has No Idea Who’s on “Drug Boats” Being Bombed
tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
Those boats don’t have drugs
Look, this is murder, plain and simple, and I don’t trust a fucking thing this administration has to say about it, but the only boat I saw a clear video of was almost certainly running drugs.
4 monster engines on a small, roofless boat, nothing about it said “pleasure craft” or “fishing vessel”, filled with square packages, running in the open Caribbean. None of that proves anything, of course, but what else could be going on?
I understand what you’re saying, but being unable to come up with an idea of what people are doing doesn’t mean they’re doing anything bad. I have strange neighbors, and I have no idea what they are doing in their backyard… But that doesn’t mean they’re doing anything illegal.
Clearly the United States knew the location of the boats. So, tracking it to its destination would allow people to analyze the contents of the boat, and perhaps even identify the people they were trying to meet within the country. Additionally, they could question the people on the boat. That would be significantly more effective.
This administration is just blowing up people in the Caribbean without any justification. This kind of action suggests that I should be able to blow up anyone in international waters for whatever reason I want. If I see a cruise ship… Clearly a bunch of motherfuckers. Blow it up.
Um, I said it was murder. I said nothing could be proven. But I was replying to the post that said no drugs were there. Pretty fucking likely there was.
Likely doesn’t mean anything. Likely isn’t evidence.
ultranaut@lemmy.world 3 days ago
At least some of them may have drugs. It doesn’t matter though because even with illegal drugs aboard these boats are still not legitimate military targets. These attacks by the US military are inherently criminal.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
But if they cannot prove after the fact that drugs were on board…
ultranaut@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’m not following. Whether or not drugs are onboard is irrelevant. Even if they can definitively prove drugs are onboard, it is still a crime for the US military to kill these people. This is categorically an illegitimate use of force. The only possible justification for this is if these boats were armed and posed an imminent threat, which obviously is not applicable.
stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 days ago
This thread is a perfect example of the propaganda / tricknology fascists always use.
The US military committed mass extrajudicial killings in international waters.
They framed them as drug mules, providing no information as to how they know they have drugs.
It. Does. Not. Matter. If they are even shipping drugs to the US. They are still committing crimes by killing them. If you’re caught with an ounce of weed in your car, does the police have the right to kill you? Even serial killers still go to trial for their crimes. Just because the fascists are trying to provide justification for their extrajudicial murders doesn’t mean it is justified.
Genuinely don’t understand how people can function as adults just by slurping up propaganda that’s in front of them.