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Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 20 hours agoGood luck debating Nazis
Who said anything about debating?
The USSR famously defeated them
LOL, good one! :D
BTW, you can thank them for being alive today if you’re European.
I’m from one of the countries that suffered massive atrocities under the bastards.
I suppose you decry the violence that the USA exerted on Nazi Germany?
I suppose you don’t understand the difference between war and peace? Actually makes sense considering the bullshit you’re saying about russians…
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
Oh no, the atrocities of universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, industrialization, guaranteed employment and the abolishment of homelessness. What a horrifying regime. Eastern Europe is so much better now that capitalism returned and you have wars again.
There is no peace with Nazis, they only understand genocide and invasion.
I didn’t say the word “Russians” in my previous comment. I mentioned the USSR being the reason why Nazis didn’t exterminate your ethnicity, but the USSR was a plurinational state composed of many ethnicities. Many Ukrainians, Belarusians, Uzbeki, Kazakh, and many of the nationalities of Russia such as Bashkir, Slavic Russians or Mari gave their lives defending your family from Nazism. Have some respect for all the brave soldiers who fought so that you can spew bullshit online today.
mr_satan@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Did USSR help defeat Nazi Germany? Yes. Were USSR just as bad? Oh, most definitely yes.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
Saving Eastern Europe from Nazi extermination is as bad as universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, the elimination of unemployment, universal right to housing and abolition of homelessness, and the doubling of life expectancy from the Tsarist Empire to 1960.
mr_satan@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Listen, I get that you’re just trolling, so this is more directed to anyone that can be convinced by your comment.
USSR saved no one. They took over other nations and killed a lot of people in the process. They ripped families apart and took them to their own concentration camps in Siberia. Most of these people were worked to death and died starving.
Before WWII Soviet regime decided that Ukrainians don’t deserve to exist and killed millions in Holodomor (Ukrainian famine).
In history they we’re never saviors, they were just another occupant and an unfortunate ally in WWII. What they brought to my country was repressions and deficits. I guess planned economy doesn’t really work.
The life my parents lived under Soviets was shit and it only improved after we regained independence.
Hero washing USSR only serves as propaganda. They were not heroes, they were winners. It doesn’t make them any better than the other side.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Buddy, who supplied the half the rifles and 90% of ammo that the ruskies used on the Eastern Front? Who supplied the fuel, trucks and tires? Who supplied the food, and even the fucking uniforms?
And who opened the second front, forcing Nazis to divide and defend on two sides, allowing USSR to actually start pushing back?
You mean the atrocities of political purges, the elimination of intelligentsia and military officers, the russification, the brainwashing, the poverty, the mismanagement, the hunger and millions dead?
You know what? Looking at russia right now, I retract my previous statement and have to agree with you here.
USSR == russia, but slightly larger, but relatively the same on the “shit-stain of the world” scale.
I have respect to the soldiers who fought. I don’t have respect to those that raped and pillaged the entire way to Berlin. Unfortunately, the first group was considerably smaller than the second.
Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 19 hours ago
Why are you so obsessed with Russians and invisibilizing the heroic contribution of the rest of ethnicities? Are you an anti-Ukrainian nazi? Also, you’re literally making up the numbers, the most manufactured and used tank in WW2 was the Soviet T-34. The contributions by the USA were measurable and necessary and they deserve the appropriate praise, but you’re denying history by saying the soviets didnt win the war.
Wrong. The victory in Stalingrad and the pushing of Nazis to the west happened well before the opening of the western front by the USA. You’re literally lying here.
Oh no, the poor military officers of (presumably Poland), they were just good guys when they happily invaded Ukraine and Belarus in 1918 and when they annexed Czechoslovakia with the Nazis.
Bullshit. Everyone in Uzbekistan speaks Uzbek, people in Mari El studied in Mari, people in Poland studied in Polish, people in Lithuania studied in Lithuanian, as proven by the fact that those are still the primary languages and cultures in their respective regions (except possibly Mari because the capitalist Russian Federation doesn’t respect multi ethnicity). Stop making up shit. If you’re so concerned with the assimilation of peoples, go open a campaign for the rights of Occitanian people, they had 1+mn speakers in 1920 and they’re barely 100k nowadays. THAT’S what cultural assimilation looks like.
Life expectancy skyrocketed under Soviet policy. Life expectancy was of 27 fucking years when the Soviets got into power, and by 1960, it was above 60 years old. The policy of rapid industrialization and land collectivization literally saved millions of lives. Again, if you care so much about the “millions of deaths” in Eastern Europe, why don’t you complain about the millions of deaths from capitalist restoration? Millions died in the Eastern Block when capitalism arrived: defunding of healthcare, hunger, drug abuse, unemployment, alcoholism, suicide and violent crime were the norm all over Eastern Europe since 1990. Blame fucking capitalism for what it did.
You’re literally a Ukrainian-hating nationalist. Gorbachev was Ukrainian and so was Brezhnev, the presidents for the longest time in the Soviet Union were Ukrainian.
Literal Nazi propaganda. Seeing how you hate Ukrainians and how you’re spewing Nazi bullshit, I have no choice but to conclude you’re a polish Nazi.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
I’m stating facts. Soviets didn’t win the war on their own. They’d be rolled over if not for UK/US help. Berlin would’ve been taken by the Allies even if the Soviets were sitting on their asses.
When did Lend-Lease start?
When did the Battle for Britain start?
Who supplied the resistance movements in occupied countries?
I guess my grandmother was a Nazi propagandist.
EOT, I don’t have time to talk to russian-brainwashed people.