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• Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Good luck debating Nazis

  Who said anything about debating?

  The USSR famously defeated them

  LOL, good one! :D

  BTW, you can thank them for being alive today if you’re European.

  I’m from one of the countries that suffered massive atrocities under the bastards.

  I suppose you decry the violence that the USA exerted on Nazi Germany?

  I suppose you don’t understand the difference between war and peace? Actually makes sense considering the bullshit you’re saying about russians…

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  • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m from one of the countries that suffered massive atrocities under the bastards

    Oh no, the atrocities of universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, industrialization, guaranteed employment and the abolishment of homelessness. What a horrifying regime. Eastern Europe is so much better now that capitalism returned and you have wars again.

    I suppose you don’t understand the difference between war and peace?

    There is no peace with Nazis, they only understand genocide and invasion.

    the bullshit you’re saying about russians

    I didn’t say the word “Russians” in my previous comment. I mentioned the USSR being the reason why Nazis didn’t exterminate your ethnicity, but the USSR was a plurinational state composed of many ethnicities. Many Ukrainians, Belarusians, Uzbeki, Kazakh, and many of the nationalities of Russia such as Bashkir, Slavic Russians or Mari gave their lives defending your family from Nazism. Have some respect for all the brave soldiers who fought so that you can spew bullshit online today.

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    • mr_satan@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did USSR help defeat Nazi Germany? Yes. Were USSR just as bad? Oh, most definitely yes.

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      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Saving Eastern Europe from Nazi extermination is as bad as universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, the elimination of unemployment, universal right to housing and abolition of homelessness, and the doubling of life expectancy from the Tsarist Empire to 1960.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The fact that you’re even questioning that the USSR defeated Nazism proves that you have no idea what you’re talking about. 80% of dead Nazi soldiers were thanks to the eastern front. 25 million Soviet lives were eliminated in the struggle against fascism.

      Buddy, who supplied the half the rifles and 90% of ammo that the ruskies used on the Eastern Front? Who supplied the fuel, trucks and tires? Who supplied the food, and even the fucking uniforms?

      And who opened the second front, forcing Nazis to divide and defend on two sides, allowing USSR to actually start pushing back?

      Oh no, the atrocities of universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, industrialization, guaranteed employment and the abolishment of homelessness

      You mean the atrocities of political purges, the elimination of intelligentsia and military officers, the russification, the brainwashing, the poverty, the mismanagement, the hunger and millions dead?

      There is no peace with Nazis, they only understand genocide and invasion.

      You know what? Looking at russia right now, I retract my previous statement and have to agree with you here.

      I didn’t say the word “Russians” in my previous comment. I mentioned the USSR

      USSR == russia, but slightly larger, but relatively the same on the “shit-stain of the world” scale.

      Have some respect for all the brave soldiers who fought so that you can spew bullshit online today

      I have respect to the soldiers who fought. I don’t have respect to those that raped and pillaged the entire way to Berlin. Unfortunately, the first group was considerably smaller than the second.

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      • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Buddy, who supplied the half the rifles and 90% of ammo that the ruskies used on the Eastern Front?

        Why are you so obsessed with Russians and invisibilizing the heroic contribution of the rest of ethnicities? Are you an anti-Ukrainian nazi? Also, you’re literally making up the numbers, the most manufactured and used tank in WW2 was the Soviet T-34. The contributions by the USA were measurable and necessary and they deserve the appropriate praise, but you’re denying history by saying the soviets didnt win the war.

        allowing USSR to actually start pushing back?

        Wrong. The victory in Stalingrad and the pushing of Nazis to the west happened well before the opening of the western front by the USA. You’re literally lying here.

        You mean the atrocities of political purges, the elimination of intelligentsia and military officers

        Oh no, the poor military officers of (presumably Poland), they were just good guys when they happily invaded Ukraine and Belarus in 1918 and when they annexed Czechoslovakia with the Nazis.

        the russification

        Bullshit. Everyone in Uzbekistan speaks Uzbek, people in Mari El studied in Mari, people in Poland studied in Polish, people in Lithuania studied in Lithuanian, as proven by the fact that those are still the primary languages and cultures in their respective regions (except possibly Mari because the capitalist Russian Federation doesn’t respect multi ethnicity). Stop making up shit. If you’re so concerned with the assimilation of peoples, go open a campaign for the rights of Occitanian people, they had 1+mn speakers in 1920 and they’re barely 100k nowadays. THAT’S what cultural assimilation looks like.

        the hunger and millions dead

        Life expectancy skyrocketed under Soviet policy. Life expectancy was of 27 fucking years when the Soviets got into power, and by 1960, it was above 60 years old. The policy of rapid industrialization and land collectivization literally saved millions of lives. Again, if you care so much about the “millions of deaths” in Eastern Europe, why don’t you complain about the millions of deaths from capitalist restoration? Millions died in the Eastern Block when capitalism arrived: defunding of healthcare, hunger, drug abuse, unemployment, alcoholism, suicide and violent crime were the norm all over Eastern Europe since 1990. Blame fucking capitalism for what it did.

        USSR == russia

        You’re literally a Ukrainian-hating nationalist. Gorbachev was Ukrainian and so was Brezhnev, the presidents for the longest time in the Soviet Union were Ukrainian.

        I don’t have respect to those that raped and pillaged the entire way to Berlin

        Literal Nazi propaganda. Seeing how you hate Ukrainians and how you’re spewing Nazi bullshit, I have no choice but to conclude you’re a polish Nazi.

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