What you are arguing for is authoritarianism. What you want is accountability. The aren't the same thing, and none of what you've posted justifies authoritarianism.
I want accountability as well. The kind of accountability we need will never be achieved by thought policing. Does the irony of what you're calling for really need to be pointed out? The vaccines were only mandatory to be in public school. They always could have opted out and homeschooled. But even that minor inconvenience was enough for them to be harnessed along with similar groups. To install a fascist. A fascist that would be exponentially worse with the kind of power you're dying to give them. They need to understand why and want to be vaccinated. Imposing that on them without that knowledge will only make things worse. Previous generations understood that from personal experience. As well future ones unfortunately. My mother personally suffered from polio, and you better damn well be sure she made sure we were always vaccinated.
The interim solution is education. I get the juvenile need for instant gratification. Again that's part of the problem. Have you ever told a juvenile what they can and can't do? How did it go for you? Now understand the average person is even more juvenile and far more self gratifying. The more you thought police, the more they will push back. Deeper and deeper into the hole you will go. Till you've failed so much you're left with a "final solution". And at that point, no matter how right you started out as. You're wrong.
Literally, read up on lysenkoism. That's what this will be. And it killed MILLIONS. I realize not everyone on ML is ML. And if there's one universal truth it's that we anarchist are shit at gatekeeping. But one would hope your proximity to them might have rubbed off.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
the state is inevitable
I am well aware of Lysenko.
The vaccines are only mandatory in public schools because we once again value personal liberty over collective responsibility. So much so that it is something indoctrinated into us from birth and culturally ingrained; being asked to wear a mask is seen as an act of violence by a significant portion of the population.
I again agree that education is the long term strategy. But two big things: again, key word is “long term. Second, what does this look like? You seem to think it’s as simple as presenting the benefits and reasoning and suddenly they’ll “get it” after being indoctrinated by disinformation campaigns. These people need to be deprogrammed. And further, what do you do about the populations until they’re “ready” to be reintegrated into society. You’ve now run into chinas Uyghur dilemma. What’s the solution? Optional education that they can simply eschew or easily find loopholes around, making the entire effort largely meaningless as they strengthen their own system of beliefs and recruit followers?
You mention popper’s paradox of tolerance; does that not apply here? Sure it is easy when it’s a Nazi but how does it work when it’s your aunt that fell for facebook memes about the Covid shot? Does that intolerance count? Because that intolerance literally kills people. Or do you just not care about that because you are a young adult who is healthy and unlikely to be a statistic in that epidemic? Sorry to the 3 kids that died preventable deaths and the 1648 that have gotten measles just this year alone; they have to wait for your “educate people and hope it works” plan.