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Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

What I don't get is why they didn't do some technofoolery with the transporters to make a copy of Tuvix and then just split that one. In a universe where there's two William Rikers there's gotta be a way to use transporters to clone.

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reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You kinda have to accept the bounds of the problem as stated in order for it to be worth thinking about. It undercuts the value of the experiment if you just say “I find a solution other than those presented which denied the central conflict entirely”.

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- Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes it’s called being an engineer
  
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  - pwr22@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    O’Brien could probably do it if you give him a couple hours
    
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    Touching_Grass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    https://chiefobrienatwork.com/
    
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    MrBusiness@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    O’Brien, you’ve got 15 minutes!
    
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Kahlenar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Then you’d have two Tuvixes that both don’t want to die. Actually I had an entire day of one philosophy class to discuss this, however it was very specific that “teletransportation” absolutely kills you and replicates you. My professor specifically said that having an understanding of star trek was necessary that day.

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- Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Just keep one in the transporter buffer and repolarize the Heisenberg compensator to split it apart before materialization. It wouldn't ever know it existed. Like unzipping a file in a temporary directory.
  
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  - SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I should’ve seen this before I wrote my comment
    
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- SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  What if you transported Tuvix for the duplicate and somehow split one of them mid transition?
  
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nomecks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
They were out of chronotons.

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Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
There's not supposed to be. Every time a transporter clone happens it's due to external and uncontrollable factors.

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- Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Moriarty was an accident but then The Doctor was on purpose.
  
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  - Doug@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Not really. The Doctor wasn’t really as advanced as chat gpt. Just an emergency tool. Voyager was stranded without a doctor so they used it full time and he grew sentience along the way.
    
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HairHeel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Terrible idea. Any time a transporter duplicates somebody, one of them turns evil. (See the DS9 episode where Tom Riker pretends to be Will Riker and hijacks the Defiant, or the reason Harry Kim, who was replaced by his own duplicate early on in the series, never got a promotion).

So now you have to decide to kill Good Tuvix, or kill the other one, which will just give you Evil Tuvok and Evil Neelix.

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CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
My personal headcanon is that they would have had they had the full resources of Starfleet at their disposal. The Riker incident was, as far as we know, non-reproducible, or someone somewhere would have found a way to weaponize it.

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