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• Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Are you kidding? They’re proud of it. They honestly think it’s a good thing. Along with the recent article about ICE stopping brown people and using a phone app to ID them from a photograph , we’ve rocketed right past the Papers-Please phase of fascism into a high tech dystopian end game.

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  • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And yet still, somewhere out there, there is a fake or brain dead leftist spouting on about how democrats support genocide.

    “Chemo makes me sick, so Ill stick with Cancer”

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    • astropenguin5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean some of them legit do (cough Fetterman), and a lot just don’t particularly care about stopping it, but that’s beside the point, I know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Lesser evil politics gets you fascism.

        The timeline for when you feel a fascist nation’s boot comes down to what your skin color is and where you’re from.

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      • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)

        This is exactly my point. The democrats have huge AIPAC backing and support some awful things, but they are fucking saints compared to the only other options in this political system.

        They are the only potential vehicles for long term change and stability exactly the way you described.

        Progressive candidates have to be winning primaries despite swimming upstream, and democrats have to continue winning federally despite the bad taste (chemo) they put in your mouth.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In case you haven’t noticed, the system in place now in the US became what it is today under both Republican and Democrat Administrations.

      One has to be a tribalist useful idiot to deny that “their side” has done as much to create a Surveillance State as the “other” side - amongst those few things which have bipartisan support in the US are strengthening of police powers and erosion of privacy.

      The comparison with most of Europe (with notable exceptions such as Britain and Russia) is very telling: it absolutely is possible to have low crime without reckless invasion of privacy, draconian police powers and a pay-to.pay Judicial System.

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      • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This bothsiderism is pretty thoughtless.

        It is true that both contribute to a surveillance state but to equate both is to just ignore all policy differences, actions and more to pretend to be nuanced while painting everything as the same shade of grey, which is a downgrade to even black and white thinking.

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  • beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Additionally, the citizens who support this kind of government surveillance are fine with a few innocents getting charged.

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    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So long as they aren’t the ones getting turned into the new fountain on the campus, they couldn’t care less.

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    • Manjushri@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Particularly if those innocents are the “right” color.

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