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My claim is that raiding other humans and taking their things was common

This is shifting the goal posts. The statement I initially made was that humans for the majority of history were egalitarian and less violent. This is still true. This statement you provided is true to a specific portion of human history that does not make up the majority.

If the argument is now that a society creating excess leads to violence and raiding we also have evidence of cultures that have not done that.

There’s also an issue with the argument that hunter gatherer societies had nothing of value to take. That idea relies heavily on our modern ideas on what is worth trying to take. For example sometimes people would travel, or possibly trade, with quarry sites hundreds of kilometers away. Having quality stone means being able to feed yourself and your group. Sounds quite valuable, but we don’t see violence increase as you move away from these sites. The same can be said for virtually every limited resource in the distant past.

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scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
See, above:

In short, people tend to be motivated by profit

Only in a society that commodifies your existence and success based on the wealth you generate/hold Unless we’re changing the definition of profit to status

This is what I’m rebutting. So you see, it’s not shifting the goalposts at all. It’s staying on the topic of this comment chain. You trying to claim that humans have been majority peaceable is in fact drifting from the topic.

The debate is whether profit appears with the advent of modern capitalism. I said people have been raiding each other for profit since the beginning of time.

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- arrow74@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  The initial claim that started this all is that there is not a better system and some rather bold claims about human nature.
  
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