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mlg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Ubuntu and Docker.

Really? Netplan alone disqualifies Ubuntu as a “friendly stable starter distro”, and I can guarantee you that your guide will somehow become outdated with a single new Ubuntu release, or some poor soul who accidentally selected an LTS release.

Docker doesn’t matter as much, but there’s a reason beyond just FOSS licensing why podman exists.

Would highly recommend Debian instead.

I started on Ubuntu similar to this many years ago and both the server and desktop experience was not fun at all.

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Zeoic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Whats wrong with netplan? Has worked great in my experience.

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- Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Netplan alone disqualifies Ubuntu as a “friendly stable starter distro”
  
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  - Zeoic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Whats wrong with netplan? Has worked great in my experience.
    
    Neither did I? Yaml defined networking is incredibly easy to use.
    
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    Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Has worked great in my experience.
    
    I read your comment as implication as either hard to use or unstable.
    
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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’d say that docker is still more user friendly than podman

In the future that may change but right now podman is still green

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- kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  In which way do you find podman hard?
  
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  - possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It isn’t necessarily hard. However, it has some quirks and isn’t as well documented.
    
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    kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The official documentation is thoroughly exhaustive, and I am not aware of any quirks. It is almost 1:1 docker.
    
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gibdos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think you are conflating desktop Ubuntu with Ubuntu Server. On a server, you absolutly want a stable, long supported LTS version.

I’ve been hosting on Ubuntu Server for over 10 years now, and at no point were any packages required to keep it up to date and running outdated.

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- possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The problem is when you upgrade
  
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  - gibdos@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You mean from one LTS to the next? It’s been a while, but as far as I remember, it worked fine on my first server (22.04 to 24.04).
    
    And even if something doesn’t work, I can have all my stuff spun up on a new server in less than an hour. But that, of course, depends on the amount of data you host.
    
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InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As someone who manages a mail server, new debian releases have the same effect.

If you want to avoid this, use a rolling release distro.

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