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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s a little less about reading what you’re saying or looking at on your phone, it’s mostly about tracking where your phone goes and figuring out who you are that way.

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  They don’t really need to.

  They get all your phone’s metadata, and thats usually enough to plug in to a bunch of other databases that they can add you to a watchlist of some kind.

  I mean really at this point we are all in a giganto mega watchlist, its just that its so big that the problem is actually sorting through that list and ‘accurately’ assigning threat levels, but thats what Palantir is for.

  Like, they get your IMSI code, unless you are somehow regularly/randomly resetting that, uh, they can easily get a bunch of other info from cell providers, they just can’t (usually) specifically use that info alone to convict you of something, but…

  They know who you are, roughly where you were and when.

  So thats a pretty good starting point for a subsequent investigation, or just throwing it onto the dragnet data pile.

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    So good I need not fear about all this, because I said a very rare bunch of people to kick rocks (not directly, not knowing who they are, just in response to their words relayed anonymously by another person, and technically more rude, but I was told it was translated this way), and expressed my opinion about the current regime in my country with its leader’s biological daughter (by no measure the only one) in the room (also I was trying to fsck her), using prison castes’ names, and also my dad probably had ties to security services, making it almost certain I’m already as tagged as tagging goes personally and not by some combination of coefficients. There’s even a little probability that this has already saved my life once or twice.

    Can’t recommend it.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I… uh… … what?!

      You told off the leader of your country, to his daughter, in person while apparently trying to fuck/date her, intentionally using some kind of insulting language variant I don’t think I fully understand…

      … and your dad is in or connected to some kind of intelligence service.

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      Assuming you aren’t bullshitting and I am not misunderstanding what you said…

      I would be fucking disappearing myself, and telling your dad to get the fuck out as well, if I was in that uh, situation.

      … I don’t mean to be rude but this sounds like a movie plot.

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      … I have once actually met a man who claimed he was an exiled, ex-yakuza, who uh, lets say, demonsrated proof of this to an extent that I as another practicioner of Japanese martial arts uh, found convincing…

      And I have had some… other encounters with people in my life that 99% of people would not believe actually took place…

      So I am not totally discounting the validity your story here…

      …but seriously?

      Good fucking luck!

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      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You told off the leader of your country, to his daughter, in person, while apparently trying to fuck/date her, intentionally using some kind of insulting language variant I don’t think I fully understand…

        Thought she’s a daughter of some intelligence worker. I started accepting the thought like 10 years after the events, still not sure, a half-niece thrice removed perhaps.

        Nah, I was talking more generally, not even sure if that was the reason.

        Just that such an encounter is already enough visibility to get on many lists.

        … and your dad is in or connected to some kind of intelligence service.

        Kept some acquaintances, not the kind of connection.

        I would be fucking disappearing myself, and telling your dad to get the fuck out as well, if I was in that uh, situation.

        I said\did things she deemed loyalty\idiocy later. Also in “that, uh, situation” you wouldn’t have the opportunity to disappear.

        Assuming you aren’t bullshitting and I am not misunderstanding what you said…

        It appears she was less offended at me than those she pranked. Meaning that it may be the opposite.

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