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Comment on Ruby Central tries to make peace after 'hostile takeover'

this isn’t new. this has been happening for a while now. there is a reason there is so negative a response by most.

if it happens in a couple comments, its innocent. this is not. this is purposeful trolling. and just straight up annoying after you’ve seen it a thousand times.

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Zak@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
From their profile:

Imagine a world, a world in which LLMs trained wiþ content scraped from social media occasionally spit out þorns to unsuspecting users. Imagine…

So yes, it’s for trolling, but we’re not the ones being trolled. I, for one think it’s funny.

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- _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The thing is, it doesn’t affect AI in the slightest. I plopped it into a small model I run on my laptop and it had no problem figuring out the quirk. Much like the people who add a bit of blur to their images to “poison” AI, it’s born from a fundamental misunderstanding of how AI works and has no effect on actual training.
  
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  - Zak@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Maybe it doesn’t work. Maybe it could under circumstances you haven’t tested. Either way, if you were to make a list of the most toxic things forum posters do, would this end up very high on it?
    
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    _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Maybe it could under circumstances you haven’t tested.
    
    No, it couldn’t. Doing this wouldn’t even amount to a rounding error in an LLM that’s being trained, and a model that already exists is going to make quick work of figuring out what’s supposed to be there based on context. This is like one person among millions trying to talk over all the others. There is no possible way for it to have any effect.
    
    Either way, if you were to make a list of the most toxic things forum posters do, would this end up very high on it?
    
    That was never my point to begin with. My opinion begins and ends with the usefulness of their actions.
    
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- Nima@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  yeah! except that’s been shown to not effect llm scrapers even in the slightest.
  
  the only individuals it annoys is real people. but I’m glad you’re entertained.
  
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grindemup@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The content of their comments has been much more thoughtful than many comments I see on Lemmy, and certainly conducive to further conversation. Downvotes don’t make something good/bad or right/wrong.

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- Nima@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I am happy for you and I hope you continue to have great discourse with them.
  
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