Whats the difference between the thin green horizontal ring and the wide orange horizontal ring that is slightly tilted?
Comment on xkcd #3156: Planetary Rings
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hey I am into this! Check out this site I built for tracking satellites!
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Green is active, orange is debris or dead sats. When a GEO sat runs out of life / power / fuel the operators are supposed to move it out of the main corridor to make room, so often they are in the same ring but higher or lower
Mensh123@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’d appreciate if I could use your website without advertisement cookies. Would you mind complying with EU cookie law?
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not familiar, what is the law, that we cannot use authentication cookies or google/twitter analytics cookies?
Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The ‘cookie’ law is (mainly) the ePrivacy Directive, that requires websites to get a user’s informed, specific, and affirmative consent before storing or accessing non-essential information on their device.
To comply a website must inform users about their cookie usage (who is using it, why, and how long they are stored, I think) and allow users to easily withdraw their consent at any time (though there’s no requirement to easily decline).
Actualy looking at the site, it already might be? I’m not sure, I don’t remember the specifics of the law. But there is a banner pop up and you do inform cookies are used and why, and there’s an easy way to withdraw consent.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah that’s what my one guy said was enough at the time, and we’ve got some European partners who never brought it up, so maybe it’s good enough with the banner?
fdnomad@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Thats so cool! Looks loke the most popular orbit aligns with the equator. Why is the wider “belt” around that line going over and under? Like
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You know what I mean?
sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Making an educated guess as a layperson, besides some satellites that are geosynchronous but not geostationary, I’d assume those are primarily old geostationary satellites in graveyard orbits - when they’re EOL, satellites in those orbits are supposed to perform a small boost out of them, usually adding a few hundred km to their orbit’s radius (GEO is about 36,000km in altitude, so a few hundred km is relatively small). Then, without station keeping, I believe they should naturally precess around the Laplace plane, which will range between roughly Earth’s equator and the ecliptic plane (the plane of Earth’s orbit). At GEO altitudes the Laplace plane is about 7.2 degrees inclined from the equator. I believe that would mean, starting at the equator with an inclination of 0 degrees, these satellites should precess to about 14.4 degrees and back to 0 over several decades (excluding other perturbations, of course).
I found this online which would seem to confirm at least the mechanics: amostech.com/TechnicalPapers/…/ROSENGREN.pdf
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
From what I could find that’s probably the band of decommissioned geosynchronous satellites. Apparently they’ll slowly match the orbital plane of the earth around the sun.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’ve bookmarked this website. That’s so cool. One of my new favourites now. Thanks for making it.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wow thanks! If you like this, on Monday I’m planning to release an update that will let you rewind the viewer all the way back to 1959 and see the first launch of Sputnik. Then let it play forward to today sped up so you can see the growth of satellite counts. Also a new public API to fetch the TLEs from any date. I’m hoping this will let folks do interesting stuff with all that data - maybe AI training or research projects etc.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That sounds awesome, I’m looking forward to it.
recklessengagement@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I browsed for a while and then realized, holy shit, they’re moving. Is this real-time? Either way, this is awesome.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, so I’m taking every telescope/radio/radar reading I’m allowed to redistribute and then collecting them into a time series database and fetching the most recent reading for each sat into a text file. That’s the TLE download in the public API. Then I use Rust WASM to propagate those readings into positions that are synced with the viewer time. This allows us to very roughly forecast where they will be for the next couple days.
It’s cool because it’s too much data to transfer over the network, so we only transfer the most recent reading and then calculate positions live in the browser.
AceBonobo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Where are the Lagrange points?
Vengefu1Tuna@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
What the fuck, I had no idea we had so many satellites. Also, this site is really cool. Thank you for making this!
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I know it blew my mind too when I first started building this! It’s such a cool project to get to build!
massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
It is comforting knowing that our planet is protected by a dense layer of floating garbage. 🫡🚀🗑️
piskertariot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Your use of the word “dense” there is a little misleading. At the default view the scale of each satelite pixel looks roughly 20km wide.
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Indeed, that’s a joke I’m always saying, that every sat is the size of rhode island
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well Rhode Island is famously tiny so I doubt it’s a problem
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Unintentional sick burn on Saturn.