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The difference between atheism and agnosticism has no practical meaning to the vast majority of unbelievers.

You can’t positively state that something does not exist. You can’t logically be 100% certain there is no God. We know that. So if you love going by definitions, yes, most unbelievers are agnostics, not atheists.

So why do we keep calling ourselves atheists? Because we view the likelihood of God’s existence as so infinitesimally small, the difference between agnosticism and atheism becomes negligible. If we rate the odds of God’s existence at 0,000000001% we can as well just call it zero.

In other words, stop whining about atheists not using the term you’d prefer. We don’t tell you what you should call yourself either.

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squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

In other words, stop whining about atheists not using the term you’d prefer. We don’t tell you what you should call yourself either.

Yes, you do, that’s what the whole thread here was about.

And you mistake my position on belief as well. I am mostly agnostic.

And yes, the difference between agnosticism and atheism is huge, except if you are too uneducated to understand the difference, which makes it weird that you have such a strong opinion on the matter.

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- glorkon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  No, I’ve never told anyone what to call themselves except Christians. I don’t care what denomination or special kind of Christians they insist on being.
  
  But now that you’ve started the Ad Hominems, calling me uneducated instead of explaining the “huge difference”, apparently you’ve run out of arguments. Or knowledge. Or both. Someone who claims to be an expert on logical fallacies like the No True Scotsman should also understand that you’ve sunk very low if you need to resort to Ad Hominems.
  
  So you just stopped being as respectful to me as I was to you during the whole discussion and now I’ve lost interest in talking to you. You proved yourself undeserving of my time. Good day.
  
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  - squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    So you can’t see a difference between “I irrationally believe that God doesn’t exist even though there’s no proof against it” and “I don’t care whether God exists, there’s no proof for or against it, and it doesn’t matter to me”?
    
    Atheism is being religious about the non-existence of God.
    
    Atheism is believing that black swans are impossible, because all swans you have seen so far are white.
    
    Agnosticism is the logical conclusion based on the knowledge we have. Atheism is just another religion.
    
    If you can’t see the difference, it’s hard to continue the discussion.
    
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