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Comment on New Rules Could Force Tesla to Redesign Its Door Handles. That’s Harder Than It Sounds

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artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

“Lock” is a term for the mechanism that controls the latch and restricts operation.

Again, there is no such mechanism.

Whether the access mechanism is digital (key card, remote, etc) or physical (key, dial, etc) is irrelevant.

It’s none of these things.

If Tesla used something that already exists, we wouldn’t have this problem.

But they didn’t. So the problem exists.

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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Again, there is no such mechanism.

Then how does the door stay closed? If I walk up to someone else’s Tesla, I can’t open it. Why? Because it’s locked. If the owner walks up, they can open it. Why? Because they have the key.

Yes, the lock works differently than many other cars, but there’s still a lock.

Here’s an article that talks about how the manual release works. It exists, it’s just annoying to access, and not something an average child (or possibly adult) can intuit.

The article is stating that the override should be easier to access and use.

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- artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  Then how does the door stay closed?
  
  You’re thinking of the door latch, not the door lock.
  
  the lock works differently than many other cars, but there’s still a lock.
  
  Again, there is no physical locking mechanism.
  
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  - Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The JUST SAID there already exists a manual override. Just make it accessible from the exterior. Problem solved. Shut the fuck up.
    
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    artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’ve already explained why that’s not possible several times, you fucking moron.
    
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  - sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The lock is what prevents the latch from unlatching without some authentication mechanism present. Whether it’s a software lock or a physical lock is irrelevant.
    
    And you can absolutely do the same on the exterior: add a physical lock that interacts with the latch. That’s basically how every other car works. Basically, there’s a motor to release the latch for electronic locks, and the key and handle intact with the latch directly. There’s no reason Tesla cars couldn’t satisfy that interaction. They could even have the handle pull charge a small microcontroller that scans the key card if they really don’t want a purely mechanical lock for some reason.
    
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    artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    And you can absolutely do the same on the exterior: add a physical lock that interacts with the latch.
    
    No, you can’t. Because, again, there is no method available to lock and unlock the door.
    
    That’s basically how every other car work.
    
    Again, that is not how this car works.
    
    There’s no reason Tesla cars couldn’t satisfy that interaction.
    
    I think you’ve lost the topic of this conversation. The topic is not that it’s impossible. It’s that it’s “harder than it sounds”.
    
    We are going round and round here and I keep repeating myself over and over but I’m clearly not getting through to you so I’m gonna call it a day.
    
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