ADL is a Zionist org, of course they are going to side with the Zionists.
Glad you are awake to this. Especially when considering that these people are promoting propaganda concerning genocide, a “genocide” that has been debunked by the ADL, in fact. Despite the facts, people into populist propaganda dismiss the ADL as biased despite its intended operational history of debunking false and defamatory claims.
nocturne@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
TheInquisitiveOne@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Let’s say you’re right, that the ADL is biased and “is a Zionist org” (which, frankly, sounds a bit conspiratorial). Then what does that make Snopes? What does that make the roughly half of Americans who don’t take issue with the ADL? And what about the people who point out the double standard that so many are quick to justify one kind of killing but not another, or that intent seems to matter only when it’s convenient?
nocturne@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
(which, frankly, sounds a bit conspiratorial)
And you think nothing that you have written sounds conspiratorial?
mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Oh no, not Snopes! Not the holy arbiter of truth! Go back to reddit before you get kicked in the head again.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The link you cited isn’t convincing in the least.
ADL is not to be trusted on this issue.
TheInquisitiveOne@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
You say that like biased sources are to be trusted.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, I said ADL is not to be trusted, there are clear reasons for this.
They deny the Armenian genocide because it’s convenient for them.
TheInquisitiveOne@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
How would you define a genocide? I’m going by dictionary definitions.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The israel defense league
mulcahey@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The ADL also doesn’t recognize a sieg heil if Elon Musk does it. They do not exist to protect Jews, they exist to protect Zionism.
TheInquisitiveOne@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
What sieg heil did Elon Musk do? Post the evidence.
mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Oh wow he really does just parrot the ADL 😂 what a loser organization
30p87@feddit.org 1 day ago
lmddgtfy.net/?q=musk+hitler+salute
mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
To be fair, dissociatives can heavily alter your motor movements. Ketamine is too soupy for this. The sharp right angles are reminiscent of dextromethorphan (Robotussin), what a man of taste!
TheInquisitiveOne@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
The whole Nazi salute thing was kind of debunked, meaning, first, that what people thought they saw didn’t line up with what he actually meant, and second, that a lot of the footage made the gesture look worse than it was. I’m not saying it wasn’t careless or that people shouldn’t be upset, just that we can’t really decide what someone’s intent was for them. Something worth pointing out (which not many seem to mention) is that the actual salute, historically, involved the arm being stretched forward, not out to the side like in that photo of him.
My way of looking at things is to break them down carefully and try to be constructive, which is why, when someone brought up that he’d also shared antisemitic conspiracy stuff, I did criticize him then instead of brushing it off the same way. It kind of reminds me of when I was a kid and Pokémon had to change Registeel’s sprite because the original pose accidentally looked like a Nazi salute. Obviously that one was almost definitely unintentional, but honestly, it looked more like the salute than Musk’s did, and of course, the internet turned it into a meme fest. Musk’s gesture, while it could arguably be interpreted that way (and maybe we’ll learn more about what he meant), still looked more like something out of a Team Rocket pose.