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You seem to be projecting about warped perspective.

Sure LLMs and other forms of automation, artificial intelligence and brute forcing of scientific problems will continute to grow.

That’s not brute forcing of a scientific problem, it’s literally a new type of algorithm that lets computers solve fuzzy pattern matching problems that they never could before.

What you are talking about though is extrapolating from that to a massive shift that just isn’t on the horizon.

I’m just very aware of the number of problems in society that fall into the category of fuzzy pattern matching / optimization. Quantum computing is also an exciting avenue for solving some of these problems though is incredibly difficult and complicated.

You are delusional, you have read too many scifi books about AI and can’t get your brain off of that way of thinking being the future no matter how dystopian it is.

This is just childish name calling.

The value to AI just simply isn’t there, and that is before you even include the context of the ecological holocaust it is causing and enabling by getting countries all over the world to abandon critical carbon footprint reduction goals.

Quite frankly, you’re conflating the tech bro hype around LLMs with AI more generally. The ecological footprint of Alpha Fold is tiny compared to previous methods of protein analysis that took labs of people years to discover each individual one. On top of the ecological footprint of all of those people and all of their resources for those years, they also have to use high powered equipment like centrifuges and x-ray machines. Alpha fold did that hundreds of thousands of times with some servers in a year.

Don’t come at me like you are being logical here, at least admit that this is the cool scifi tech dystopia you wanted and have been obsessed with. This is the only way you get to this point of delusion since the rest of us see these technologies and go “huh, that looks like it has some use” whereas people like you have what is essentially a religious view towards AI and it is pathetic and offensive towards religions that actually have substance to their philosophy and beliefs.

Again, more childish name calling. You don’t know me, don’t act like you do.

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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I am treating you like a child because you refuse to use your brain.

You gave me one obscure example that isn’t even connected to the overall rise in value of LLMs and other forms of AI that has created an economic bubble worse than the dotcom bubble. So you are claiming the next real AI revolution is justtttt around the corner with a totally new technology you swear?

Maybe?

What I do know for sure is you are far more interested in that maybe than you are in actually engaging with the existential real world problems we are facing right now…

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- masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  I am treating you like a child because you refuse to use your brain.
  
  No you’re doing so because you started doom scrolling before you had coffee and now you’re trying to justify your uncalled for rudeness.
  
  You gave me one obscure
  
  It literally won the model prize.
  
  very early stage example
  
  It is not early stage, predicting the structures of those proteins has already actively changed the course of biomedical science.
  
  that isn’t even connected to the overall rise in value of LLMs and other forms of AI
  
  It is in that it uses the same underlying type of algorithms and is literally from the same team that developed the “T” in ChatGPT.
  
  So you are claiming the next real AI revolution is justtttt around the corner with a totally new technology you swear?
  
  I have not claimed that, I said that AI algorithms are likely to be part of our climate solutions and our ability to serve more people with less manual labour.
  
  Calm down and go talk to a person irl. The infinite scrolling rage machine seems to have done its job already.
  
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  - supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    I have not claimed that, I said that AI algorithms are likely to be part of our climate solutions and our ability to serve more people with less manual labour. They help to solve entirely new classes of problems and can do so far more efficiently than years of human labour.
    
    hahaha like AI will be a part of climate solutions are you serious right now?
    
    Y’all are incapable of understanding expertise in your domain does not make you an expert in everything else, **there is no way anyone in the industry you are speaking about will listen to climatologists and
    
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    masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    You keep saying y’all and it’s telling.
    
    Learn how to communicate with people, not boxes you out them in.
    
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