Comment on Why does the GOP think “ANTIFA” is bad?
Asafum@feddit.nl 21 hours ago
Antifa has been branded by the GOP as a group that does not follow a specific ideology purely focused on fascism, they’ve been marked as a “dangerous, violent, leftist (important point) group.”
The politicians are using the antifa boogyman as a political tool and the MAGA supporters are just opposing a group they see as “leftist terrorists.” In their eyes it has nothing to do with any kind of “legitimate” resistance to fascism so they’ll outright reject the notion that being against Antifa means your for fascism.
They’ve been conditioned to absolutely loath anyone on the left with the most pure burning hatred, so in using the qualifier “leftist” in their description they invoke the thought terminating process, leftist means you hate them without thought, and antifa is now a label you can put on anyone you want to persecute. The “base” may have been conditioned to despise “the left,” but I think we’re still at the point where the right can’t simply say “we’re arresting them because they’re Democrats” so they need this “dangerous terrorist group” to exist as the enemy.
THANK YOU! This helped me understand so much! I am just trying to wrap my head around what’s going on currently and what happened in history and how it’s melting together, so honestly thank you!
I appreciate you not attacking me and being religion into it and just explaining it to me in reality and to the point. So seriously, thank you!
Yeah I lurk around r/conservative and hubs still lurks on the remains of Twitter just because we both a) can't look away and b) think it's important to understand what's going on over there.
I usually see stuff said like "they're not actually antifascists that's just a misdirection to cover their real fascist ideologies." Which is a genuine strategy in political propaganda. People use all kinds of labels to cover up all kinds of awful shit.
Really the only way around that is to focus less on labels overall and focus more on individuals and either thoughts on or even more importantly actual specific real world actions. I don't know what political label people would put me under.
A lot of my local politicians last year were listed independent. I picked the one that wanted to expand the bus lines. I think a fetus is a human being but that it doesn't have a right to use a woman's body without her continuous consent. I think the rich have broken a bunch of the social contracts they made to avoid bloodshed and that something bloody is inevitable more than it even is desirable. I'm thinking that next time there's political unrest in my area I should just sit on an out of the way street corner with a sign that says "RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES."
Dunno what any of that makes me but I'd like to find more of us if possible. Sometimes labels help that, sometimes they don't. Wish I had a better or cleaner answer fire you.
No honestly, this is the best comment I’ve heard all night you came and told me exactly what I needed to hear without provocation and without hate but more or less just giving me the answers that it was actually asking in my question, so thank you! It was not religion. I know I asked it, but it wasn’t an attack to me and mine just asking if that’s why they believe, so thank you honestly, just THANK YOU!
subignition@fedia.io 6 hours ago
yeah, unfortunately expecting them to understand what fascism means in any sort of complex way is giving them too much credit