Comment on Framework supporting far-right racists?

• wetling@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Are you saying the consequences of xenophobic nationalism are not terrible or horrible?

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  • SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    @wetling where I live (the USA), both fascism and nazism are lawful. Xenophobic nationalism is always violent and usually lawful. As you point out, all three have horrible consequences. So the distinctions @majster was trying to draw seem incoherent to me.

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  • majster@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To me arguing for changes in visa quotas and border control is not equal to advocating for forceful expulsion of people already living somewhere. To me that seems to be difference between moderates/fascists. CDU/AfD difference if you will.

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    • expr@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Umm, Trump has been forcefully expelling people en masse for quite some time now, and detaining large groups of people in horrible conditions (sound familiar?). Have you not been paying attention?

      The regime is absolutely, without a doubt, 100% fascist. It’s following the Nazi playbook to a T.

      Stop sanewashing his actions.

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      • majster@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I agree that Trump crossed fascist line, however I haven’t seen DHH do the same. Atleast not in his London writing for which he is getting criticized.

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    • SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      @majster The difference here is between someone who wants to enact violence against others by forcefully expelling them from their homes vs someone who wants to enact violence against others by denying them a safe haven after they have been forcefully expelled from their homes. To me, this falls under the category of "differences between nazis/fascists/xenophobic nationalists which only a nazi/fascist/xenophobic nationalist would care about". @wetling

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