Comment on 'We're the future, don't wait around for Corbyn and Sultana': Inside the Green Party conference
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 days ago
Given Greens polling still hovers around 11%. Even with the parties increase in membership. (About 20k)
He really needs to show some real data. Before claiming a new party is not needed.
If he can get votes good for him. But trying to harm other left wing parties when he is still failing to inspire voters. Seems desperate to say the least.
Honestly. Massive and well planned unification of left wing parties. Is the only hope in 2029. The left as a whole is far to divided. The parties agreeing not to compete in areas where an existing left of centre party it the best chance of beating the right wing. And agreeing to a clear confidence and supply agreement in parliament supporting the Left party with the most seats.
This is the only hope ATM of the left opposing reforms/tory control of media and billionaires funding.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 days ago
One of the few sensible comments I’ve seen in this community.
The left is obsessed with splintering over the slightest little thing. Time and time again it feels like they’d rather be confined to the political wilderness but pat themselves on the back for feeling ideologically pure than accepting compromises but having a real shot at being in a position where they can make positive change.
Bluntly, there has been a lot from the Green party over the years that I really don’t like. From being extremely into NIMBYism (even to the extent where they end up being against green energy developments), some policies (which have now been dropped) that went against gender equality, and some IMO insane and isolationist anti-NATO nonsense at a time when the world is becoming more hostile and militaristic (some of that has been dropped).
But I’d vote for them in a heartbeat if the alternative is the Tory-Reform uniparty. It angers me somewhat that Corbyn and Sultana, alongside the Muslim independents they’ve allied with, are trying to make a new party that only further splits the vote and hands more power to their adversaries who’ve openly become a UK MAGA party. They could’ve joined the Greens and strengthened the left vote, but they instead chose to weaken it.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 days ago
Agreed. But unfortunately the only way we will win. Is to work with the lefts desire to split. It is why we need PR. Because the Right sure as hell will use the splitting against us.
But the only way we will get it. Is to accept our weakness and work around it. Green and Your Party have both indicated a willingness to work together in the past. It is down to members to vote to ensure we do. Ours splits are a good thing for democracy. Having a group of parties willing to debate and argue in parliament But still work together to prevent the right taking over. (IE confidence and supply agreement) Is the closest thing FPTP allows to a 50% plus control over the election process.
Adding support for PR changes to the agreement would likely help win support. Not to mention being just a fucking good idea.