Comment on The only difference between a humane and an inhumane death, is whether or not it leaves a mess.

• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Death penalty isn’t the only way to kill people…

  Murder, War, “Police” Violence, “Military interventions (totally 3 days only)”…

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  • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And no one would qualify those as “humane” either. So the argument still stands.

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    • FireTower@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How about euthanasia?

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      • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s a weird edge case that is between killing and assisted suicide, assuming there is consent.

        Euthanasia without consent seems not so humane to me, but once again it is an edge case that is still hard to define.

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    • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No it doesn’t.

      There is a difference between shooting a invader of your house/country and capturing him and torturing to death.

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      • Solumbran@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There is a difference, but if you start saying that shooting an invader is humane, you have a serious problem.

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• elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Most people are subject to the death penalty. The world population is approaching 8.1 billion souls. The ten most populous nations are India, China, the US, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Bangladesh, Russia, and Mexico, adding up to 4.6 billion – over half the planet.

  Of those, only Mexico has abolished the death penalty (though Brazil is listed as “extreme only” and Russia is listed as “suspended”, having not officially executed anyone in the past decade*). Putting these together, at least 4.1 billion people out of the “first 4.6” that I looked at live under the specter of the death penalty.

  I don’t think you can no-true-scotsman your way out of the simple fact that it’s still “normal” for humans to kill other humans. I also don’t think that acknowledging that fact requires that you endorse the practice.

  *whoa, is this a case where RUSSIA is more sane than the USA?! Strange times.

  I looked up the population info on www.worldometers.info/…/population-by-country/ and cross-referenced with the site you posted.

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  • FireTower@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To understand why it’s legal in the USA you have to first understand the US’s government is structured. The Federal Government actually doesn’t hold that much power, the most power is held by the States which decide on issues like this for themselves.

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    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/19/10-facts-about-the-death-penalty-in-the-u-s/

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    • elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh, I understand quite well why it’s legal in the US. It’s been a topic of some debate my entire life here.

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