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khannie@lemmy.world 6 days agodeveloper verification can be disabled, bypassed, or worked with
In reality, this is useless given the technical capabilities (or access to the technology necessary) of nearly every android user. What percentage of them do you think has the capacity or capability to use ADB?
you called it sideloading removal, which it isn’t.
Strictly it ticks the box, however effectively it is sideloading removal. Arguing otherwise honestly makes me think you work for them. It’s such obvious marketing bullshit “Oh, we left this tiny window open to tick the box which people can use, but almost certainly not you and even if you are capable, it’s a pain in the arse”. There are 7 intelligent people in my house. I’m the only one capable of using ADB without enormous effort, making it a deliberately huge barrier and even I’m not going to do it to install a trusted open source app.
Let’s be clear; the only reason they left that little window open was to have people like you say “no, sideloading is still possible” to cover their arses legally and also for actual developers, not because they care about an open ecosystem.
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
All of them: they can follow instructions, plug a cable, and push buttons if they really want to. Most won’t bother: capacity isn’t willpower.
That’s the idea: welcome to an effective deterrent.
Good, then it’ll deter as designed.
Nah, the use cases are legitimate:
Malicious software on devices connected to everything including highly sensitive information poses high-cost risks that you & casual users overlook because muh inconvenience 😭. If casual users can’t bother with a straightforward procedure as you say, then how prepared are they to handle the real challenges of a successful attack?
From a security perspective, it makes sense for OS designers to choose to limit exposure to that threat to power users who can be expected to at least have a better idea of what they’re getting themselves into.
khannie@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Google employee confirmed. Absolute trash reasoning verging on trolling it’s so ridiculous. Wild that you arguing so vehemently in favour of reduced access to use your hardware the way you want.
Laughable. You’ve obviously never worked in any kind of customer support role.
Most people are going to melt at the steps necessary to use adb.
By capacity I meant access to hardware. There are so many people in poorer countries out there that don’t have a laptop, permission to start using one for installing adb on it but also have an android phone.
I don’t want an effective deterrent that effectively kills fdroid and the like. That’s the whole point. I’ve favoured android because it’s more open. The talking points in favour of it pale in comparison to the loss of freedom.
Honestly just jog on. Please.