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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks agoLiberals pose as leftists
If liberals aren’t on the left, where are they?
Actual leftists want the forces of democracy to overrun capitalism completely and permanently,
The right are the ones that want democracy - power to the people, small government, well defined laws and regulations, and fair elections. The left and liberals want communism and authoritarianism. They crave it. They want to be controlled and given their rations, with extreme censorship and no differing views allowed, punishable by death.
You aren’t on a corporate platform where you can talk like an american cable news pundit without anyone pointing out how ridiculous you sound.
Amazing.
Ildsaye@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
You have an american media understanding of what left and right are.
The rest of the world, and everyone who reads books, know that right and left as political terms originated in the period of the French Revolution, in which the forces who wanted to retain the absolute rule of kings sat on the right of the aisle in parliament, and those who wanted rights and rule of law were on the left. They quickly became generalized, with right then meaning the tendency to concentrate power in the incumbent oligarchic class, and left becoming synonymous with the tendency toward democratization. This is how scholarly people the world over use the terms to this day.
You have adopted the corporate media’s usage, wherein right and left become team-sports markers with no permanent grounding in policy. It is a disempowering understanding of the world, which is why billionaires invest so much money in promoting it to the masses. It is one of the forms of guillotine insurance.
Conservatives and liberals are both guardians of capitalist power - they are both firmly on the right. They are each funded by an almost identical collection of billionaire and corporate donors. Conservatives are mostly direct and overt about it. Liberals are more sly - their function is absorb and dissipate leftist pressure so that it cannot consolidate into a coherent, independent force. Wearing the skins of the social movements they strangle, the liberals then pin their own crimes on “socialism”, to braying conservative applause. If that’s the spectacle you want to stay lost in, suit yourself. But in that case, I think you’d feel more at home on Reddit.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
I definitely don’t, what with not being American and not living in America lol
Ildsaye@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
If you live in a NATO vassal, your media are basically an affiliate of the american media. If you are really convinced you are shielded from that influence, that’s pretty tragic. If you are outside of NATO, you have fewer excuses for what becomes a much more bizarre loyalty to the imperial paradigm of an arbitrary and floating “left” and “right”.
There is every indication that what “communism” and “socialism” mean to you are equally afloat in the vibes. The primary texts are in the public domain and easy to find if you ever want to become capable of arguing a position seriously instead of parroting talking points that were already obsolete 150 years ago.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
Cool so you do think communism works and is the best lol.
Yeah it’s definitely you who belong on reddit.