Comment on flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

• non_burglar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Come on.

  but apparently people here in this comment thread think this is bad design 🙄

  1. Users ask questions about "How would this work?"
  2. You gave us answers that don’t seem to work for any of our use cases
  3. Eyeroll emoji cause the user is wrong, apparently

  And on top of it, you are becoming belligerent to users insisting they don’t know what they’re talking about.

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  • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because people are asking for things that are explicit anti-features from centralized commercial platforms that aim for platform feudalism like Amazon and Alibaba. Flohmarkt explicitly doesn’t want to replicate these and aims to be a decentralized network of location specific classified pages. Obviously there can’t be an agreement when people ask of the anti-facebook to be more like Facebook 🙄

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    • non_burglar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Again, for the nth time, NO ONE IS ASKING FOR THAT. They are asking how flohmarkt works. YOU are (for some reason) insisting that we all want a centralized market.

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      • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They are asking how it works, and when you explain it to them they say: “that is bad design, why can’t it be more like X?” With X being exactly what Flohmarkt wants to avoid.

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• Arcka@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One thing I would find valuable is mechanisms to dissuade the listings with obviously false prices. So many things on CL that aren’t really free or $1.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Solution “payments process through the system only at the price you posted. If this isn’t done, the ad pointing to you doesn’t come down and new ones don’t go up. You only get X number of posts simultaneously.”

    But then we’ve have another app to juggle all the account created to circumvent this so fuck it.

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  • tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think that would be up to the mods, when people then ask for more then the price or list a higher price in the description

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• skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How does location specificity limit spam? Surely the nature of spam is it costs nothing to produce and is done en masse.

  And I mean any kind of bad actor really. Spammer, scammer, or even just a griefer deciding the gum up the system for lulz.

  To be clear these are genuine questions, I’m not here to shit on the project or anything. I’d love more than anything for there to be good answers to them.

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  • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Spam is about reach, as 99.9% of the recipients will not buy anything from a spammer. Obviously the location specificity of Flohmarkt doesn’t prevent other forms of abuse, but it makes Flohmarkt instances very unattractive for commercial spammers as you can’t reach a sufficiently broad user-base with your relatively generic ads.

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    • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Either I’ve not understood your point, or you’re suggesting that spammers would limit themselves to one instance?

      Spam is about volume, and a 0.1% takeup rate would be a dream for a spammer.

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      • poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I actually typed 99.999% first, but then decided some stickler would for sure question that number then 🤦

        The point is that operating on hundreds of different pages that each have limited reach and interact only in a limited fashion in a way that isn’t a problem for legitimate users but severely limits the volume spammers can reach is a lot of work. Spam only makes sense when it is cheap and high volume.

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