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curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Commercial centralized online classified systems have a massive problem with ads from commercial sellers as a result, yes.

Lets go to the example from earlier - craigslist. They do not do advertisements. Specific types of listings cost money. That is how craigslist makes money.

Do you mean sellers who make listings in many locations? Does flohmarkt have any controls to prevent that? Because from what I can see…. no, it doesn’t.

Again, lets return to the actual problem:

How do I, as a user in the United States, join and participate? As a user, not an admin. Right now.

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poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There is no distinction between users and admins. You can set up your own instance if you feel like there is a demand for it in your city. That is how decentralized community owned systems work. The same is true for Lemmy.

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- curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  There is no distinction between users and admins.
  
  I’m sorry, but this is an absolute horror show of a sentence.
  
  You can set up your own instance if you feel like there is a demand for it in your city.
  
  Why would I need a whole new instance for that? What benefit is there to locking an *instance to a region rather than a listing* to a region?
  
  Its not a technical limitation. Its not even a functional limitation for the trade or sale of someone’s stuff.
  
  What happens when that server owner changes their region that they live?
  
  Do you expect each person to stand up their own instance?
  
  How do I, *as a user*, and lets assume I don’t have the technical ability or the infrastructure necessary to support standing up my own instance, use flohmarkt in the United States?
  
  What technical reason is there for this limitation?
  
  What functional reason is there for this limitation?
  
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  - poVoq@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It is a good design goal to foster decentralisation.
    
    And the creator of an instance can and should hand over responsibility to a local coop or at least a different person still interested in the location the Flohmarkt instance caters to.
    
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    curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    It is a good design goal to foster decentralisation.
    
    Its a shitty design that fosters silos.
    
    And please stop demeaning yourself as a user. Are you a drug addict or what?
    
    Stop being an asshole. I’m explaining a position and a use case, which is used for good software design.
    
    This is a shit design. Many others have said the same and expressed their concern. You have decided to act like an asshole for no reason while I tried to explain why its a problematic design. You do that from a user perspective.
    
    There is zero reason for you to suddenly behave like a rotten kid who was just told his toy wasn’t made well. Grow the fuck up.
    
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