Comment on The problem with overeating is that it feels really good
Ging@anarchist.nexus 4 weeks ago
Are you familiar with ' jouissance’?
The drive continues past satisfaction into compulsion.
Pleasure is mixed with pain, shame, or guilt during/after the act.
It’s symbolic. Eating can act like a shortcut for dealing with other feelings or wants — it fills a need that words or thinking don’t fix.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I wasn’t familiar with the term (never studied Lacan) but I am offended by the concept of excess pleasure. No such thing.
Ging@anarchist.nexus 4 weeks ago
I see enjoyment (jouissance) as a built-in surplus that pushes past satisfaction into something often painful or compulsive. Ideology hides this excess by promising straightforward fulfillment, but that promise produces the very leftover enjoyment it denies. The subject thinks it wants a clear goal, while an unconscious drive seeks the surplus; culture can redirect this surplus (sublimation) or it returns as symptoms (addiction, shame). So enjoyment isn’t just pleasure — it’s the extra push that both sustains desire and disrupts meaning.
You saying no such thing is a misunderstanding Žižek links this surplus to the paradox that prohibiting pleasure produces a new form of enjoyment — the pleasure of prohibition. The ban sets up a forbidden object that becomes more desirable; the surplus (jouissance) then migrates into transgression or guilt, so prohibition itself generates the very enjoyment it aims to stop.
I’m curious to know specifically how this was experienced as offending
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
it’s mostly a
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type offense, as i thought i was clear i haven’t studied lacan.